Trans- Univeꝝ

[kavaris]

I noticed there was alot of "trans-" interest and/or related posts, and as i have a few gay friends, it got me thinkin bout something i jus recently learned about Uranian (a sexuality term)

The term Uranian   being  a 19th-century word refers to men who are attracted to other men.
from classical Greek ideas about love—specifically Aphrodite~Urania, a heavenly form of love that ancient writers assoc. w/ love~between males

Its sortve like tattoos and stuff like this that go through phases (going back to ancient Dacians and/or the tattoo gingerbread Grandmother's of Bosnia/Croatia, etc)  where ppl today are tryina come from it like its this new thing / area of reality, but these are just phases of Mother Nature and its creatures, circling on the same set of ingredients, especially if you look at how Ulrich is circling back to mythology, and how he frames these things.

The last hundred years have heavily suppressed all of these ancient ideas; however when it comes to the Uranians, these were just people standing up for their sexuality in the 1800s ~ and was Karl Heinrich Ulrichs, a German, was very much outspoken in regards to

He published essays, multiple, under his own name~arguing that men attracted to men was a natural variation of human beings, not criminals or sinners, and of course in 1860~the pinnacle of like, suppressing everything, it was seen as radical.

In 1867 @ the German Jurists' Conference 1867 in Munich,  he stood up and tried to argue publicly for the decriminalization of homosexuality (note, long story short, he was shouted down before he could finish). But the point is, he was one of the first people to openly argue that homosexuality was natural. He sometimes described gay men as having a "female psyche in a male body" ~ Alas that was a common way to think of it~Or atleast by Ulrichs time it began to ~

He coined terms like: Urning (German)  = Uranian ... Opposite is Dioning  which is "men attracted to women" (though i dont think it means ordinary typical "straightmen", as hes getting his term from Dionysus, and Dionysus is not a normal character to use, to describe such a thing, so there must be more to it)

inb4, later on  writers like John Addington Symonds and Oscar Wilde used Uranian to talk about male same-sex love in a more idealized or noble way. There was even a small literary movement called "Uranian poetry"

And so, In todays day n age, Uranians (as a word) isnt even really known about. Its not some strange modern category—And this gets to the conclusion here, which is Ulrich, and how he he built a whole universe of descriptions and ideas~of what kind of person Uranian was describing~through a mix of early psychology and classical myth. And if yous wanna get into some old history of "trans" thats a good place to start to build up to  Hirschfeld (the classic "transvestite"), David Cauldwell, et caetera (note, those terms we use today around trans- are from the 50s or 60s or around there, though Ulrich was one of the first to really argue that same-sex attraction was inborn and not criminal... And going to Ancient times you have Hermaphroditus, the child of Hermes and Aphrodite, merging male and female, etc)

Anyway there was quite a few trans' threads, so i felt  it was incumbent upon me to get involved in some way, to some degree, so yous might start to see what/where the preceding terms in this category are coming from ~

p.s. ꝝ → is an abbreviation used for -rum (but i use a similar symbol for capital letter "P", though its more like /ꝝP/ visually)

Edited yesterday at 04:53 PM by kavaris

[kavaris]

@everyone p.s. yous can use this thread to talk about (\*things from your own perspective and opinion) on any thing on man on man love, woman on woman love, or how a person feels inside, if they feel feminine or masculine, et caetera, but be careful cause iuno wat yous did ~ but yous got the thread on trans stuff \*closed, and i wasnt there to see what it was about, so im jus saying, jus' try to speak on things that are somewhat sensible or intellectual and things like this.

Edited yesterday at 07:05 PM by kavaris

[Jowblob]

When my kundalini awakened, i really got a beating by this energy for watchin gay porn when i wasn't gay. It showed me so much, and it was traumatizing for me dealing with the consequences of my actions.

GOD created WOMAN and MAN , simple as that. The more you indentify or deviate from Man/Woman relationship the further you're away from God, or atleast in the illusory seperation. What happends if the "ego's" engage in man/man or female/female relationship? Is further lowering in consciousness or "confusion" , because you're deviating further away from gods creation and how "he" designed it to be.

It doesn't ofcourse mean that transgenders/gays will be punished by God, they will simply punish themselves because the higher consciousness only carries truth and purity. Most of them ofcourse will never experience kundalini in their life but will simply be reborn again and cleansed of their actions.

[kavaris]

@Jowblob Thats interesting. Hey, thats the first time i heard that experience, though i could imagine it of course, as im comin from a perspective of not bein gay, but im sure gay men are the opposite, cause their kundalini goes up thinkin bout cute guys

I was actually thinking of a something, in regards to the perspective of those of the Middle East. Like i think somewhere, theres a city/state or regions of the Middle East or India, or like a Gay Tropical island, where all the Gay Middle Easterners go to be freely gay or tran and such, as I could imagine that that the strictest countries of the middle east probably dont take well to gay guys or girls.

What are the vehicles called in the M.Est, that are like those tiny carriages? took-tooks? Everytime i see a video of one of those coach drivers that sell the took-took rides, i feel like all of them  are def the gay indians that are tryina find other gay men via driving around on the took-tooks , but maybe thats just me.

I feel like it was Constantine I, or one of these early emporers in early AD, where they saw the people still into the gay orgies and such, worshipping Greek or Roman Gods and they put there foot down and started banishing ppl, nd hanging anyone that was caught at the gay and trans orgies.

If you look at the Roman art, they got quite a few ancient roman art w/ some gay loving going on, that somehow survived. You know, theres not a fragment of ancient hebrew, but gay roman art survives i guess.

Edited 15 hours ago by kavaris