Bacher

Amazing God awakenings similar to 5 MeO naturally

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@Bacher

You say: "You seem like you have not realized that life on earth is not the end of this infinite imagination that will go on forever. This imagination is also creation. You will not understand God by sitting like buddists and contemplate emptiness or the light. Why do you think this life on earth and other life forms exists? That is because the LIGHT or GOD needs that to understand itself, what it is capable of and how long it can go and create and at the same time experience all the emotions and reactions. It cannot do that by simply being the light."

In Reality, in Truth, there is no time. Separate selves debate about whether the imagination goes on infinitely or temporarily, but the truth is that it never started so nothing has ever happened. How can anything happen if there is no such thing as time. Reality tries to concede to the separate selves by saying well, the imagination is only real to you because you are experiencing separation. But the hard truth is that you are not even separate selves. And never have been. The separate self comes back and says "oh but I'm experiencing this; you can't say nothing is happening." Reality responds, until you see that you are not real---i.e that you are not separate, you will experience Reality as events.

 

@Breakingthewall

You say: "Realizations pull you away from the core, keeping you circling like a moth to a light, looking at it from different angles, when the idea is to break the separation between you and the light and be the total essence of what it is, which isn't a realization, it's the source of realizations and everything else. There's nothing you can say about this light , since anything you say will be an aspect, a facet, a realization among infinite facets, an absolute zero."

Piercing through the separation, like you say, is what frees the individual from the illusion that there are realizations to be made about Reality. Like you say, "the idea is to break the separation between you and the light". Who can make a realization about Reality? One would have to be separate from Reality and stand separate from it to be able to understand it, but if one himself is Reality, how can he understand Reality or have true insights about it. All there is is Reality.

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15 hours ago, GodisOne said:

Who can make a realization about Reality? One would have to be separate from Reality and stand separate from it to be able to understand it, but if one himself is Reality, how can he understand Reality or have true insights about it. All there is is Reality.

15 hours ago, GodisOne said:

 

Yes but the reality happens in forms, structures, differentiations. these take on total prominence of what is perceived, and in doing so the perception occurs in a contracted and sequential way, creating the image of a self progressing along a timeline interacting with the external.

if you want to fully open up you have to break that contraction, and get out of that sequential movement. Being absolutely open to the total now, then the self collapse and the limits disappear . It's like an energetic shift that happens when you are here and now without absolutely no grips, no mental capsule that protects you for dissolving yourself in the reality, then in yourself. 

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You are the big chief.

You spelled it out quite well in the OT when you said "I am the lord your God and no man can hold me to account".

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@Breakingthewall It is so complex to explain it with human langauge because time and space doent even exist in reality. Everything is happening now forever. I think you got the idea of what I am trying to say here. You can choose the buddah way or you can go even further and more advanced.

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6 hours ago, Bacher said:

@Breakingthewall It is so complex to explain it with human langauge because time and space doent even exist in reality. Everything is happening now forever. I think you got the idea of what I am trying to say here. You can choose the buddah way or you can go even further and more advanced.

I understand what you mean: different aspects of the reality, god, infinity. 

This fragment of tao te ching expresses good what I meant

Attain emptiness
to preserve peace.
From the bustling arising of all things,
contemplate their return.
All beings grow in agitation,
but then, each returns to its root.
To return to the root is to find rest.
To rest is to return to one’s destiny.
To return to one’s destiny is to know eternity.
To know eternity is to be enlightened.


He who does not know eternity
walks blindly toward misfortune.
He who knows eternity embraces all.
He who embraces all is great.
He who is great is celestial.
He who is celestial is like the Tao.
He who is like the Tao endures.
Though his life comes to an end, he does not perish.

What it says about knowing eternity being enlightened means being open to the totality. The facets of the totality are facets; the essential thing is being open to the totality and being one with it. With the Tao, I would say the Tao Te Ching, God, Nirvana, whatever. It is the absolute being, the limitless, the total openness that it is.

At the end of the poem it says: "He who is one with the Tao does not perish even though his life ends." This means that if you are one with the totality, even though the human being disappears, the totality remains. Therefore, if your human structure was a hole to the totality, death is simply the disappearance of that structure, which does not affect the essential. On the other hand, if you are lost in form, death is total annihilation, since it is the dissolution of that form

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