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I contend that the Buddha did talk about God

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    “When discussing the noble eightfold path, the Buddha focused most often on the fact that following it leads to the end of suffering. This point is so important in his teachings that he twice stated, “Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress” (SN 22:86; MN 22). Any question that interfered with this aim, he would put aside.”
    DeGraff, On the Path: An Anthology on the Noble Eightfold Path drawn from the Pāli Canon, OnThePath210213.pdf, 21.
    An awkward paraphrasis would be, _Both formerly & now, it’s only not goodness that I describe, and the cessation of not goodness (= resumption/bringing about of goodness; ultimately nirvana/God)._
    See https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/113610-trump-is-god/?do=findComment&comment=1749981.
    
    _God (n., sense 2)_
    - “The Being” (Blanton 1996, 1)
    - “Soul”, “Soul is the real Self,—Infinite, All-Knowing, All-Powerful, Everywhere Present. Mind is a tool of Soul, used as an instrument to create and reflect the physical universe. Body is the creation of mind.” (Lester 1962, 67)
    - “The Self”, “The Self (God)” (Lester 1962, 13)
    ~~- “Love”, “Love is your Self.” (Levenson 1993, 49)~~
    “love”, “When I refer to love, I’m merely pointing to the unidentified, awakened mind. …” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, 78–79)
    - “_“Our real nature, the infinite real self that we are, is simply us minus the mind.”_” (Levenson 1993, 51)
    - “awareness all alone” (Spira 2022, 49)
    ~~- “Beingness”~~
    - “ultimately what is real” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, 42)
    - “awareness or consciousness”, “final state”, “changeless state”, “ultimate Truth” (Levenson 1993, 81)
    - “the pure unknown: love” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, chap. 24, 215)
    - “love”, “the quietest of all things”, “Love itself is not an emotion. It's a very, it's the quietest of all things.” (‭“Lester Levenson, … Sedona Method (2024)”)
    - “nothing”, “a completely silent mind” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, 246), (Katie and Mitchell 2017, 235) “Awareness knows nothing, and therefore it’s hidden to itself.” (Katie and Mitchell 2017, 235) “All you can do is be it.” (Katie and Katz 2005, 246) “You say, “I want to know myself.” You _are_ the “I.” You _are_ the Knowing. You _are_ the consciousness through which everything is known. And that cannot _know_ itself; it _is_ itself.” (Tolle 2003, 55–56)
    - “[t]he consciousness of the Isness”, “death”, “The consciousness of the Isness, the same as death, comes through.” (Weber 1996, 148)
    ~~- “perfection”, “Perfection is another name for reality.” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 45)~~
    - “[t]he all-quiet state”, “ecstasy”, “euphoria”, “bliss”, “nirvana”, “The all-quiet state is such a tremendous state, that it can never be put into words. The words ecstasy, euphoria, bliss, nirvana don’t describe it really — they only allude to it.” (Levenson 1993, 279)
    - “the unbent”, “the effluent-free”, “the true”, “the beyond”, “the subtle”, “the very-hard-to-see”, “the ageless”, “the permanence”, “the undecaying”, “the surfaceless”, “non-objectification”, “peace”, “the deathless”, “the exquisite”, “bliss”, “rest”, “the ending of craving”, “the amazing”, “the astounding”, “the secure”, “security”, “unbinding”, “the unafflicted”, “dispassion”, “purity”, “release”, “the attachment-free”, “the island”, “shelter”, “the harbor”, “refuge”, “ the ultimate”. (…, 1 October 2025, https://www.dhammatalks.org/suttas/SN/SN43.html, https://archive.ph/Rw3Yy,
    https://suttacentral.net/sn43.14-43/en/sujato?lang=en&layout=plain&reference=none&notes=asterisk&highlight=false&script=latin) “There are 32 synonyms for Nibbana in the _Asaṃkhata-saṃyutta_ of the _Saṃyutta-nikāya_. They are mostly metaphorical.” (Rahula 1978, 36)
    - “the screen” (Spira 2022, 43)
    - “Space”, “silence”, “Space and silence are two aspects of the same thing, the same nothing. They are an externalization of inner space and inner silence, which is stillness: the infinitely creative womb of all existence.” (Tolle 1999, 115; 112–115)
    - “darkness”, “The dark, the nameless, the unthinkable” (Katie and Mitchell 2007, chap. 1)
    - ________
    PDFsam_merge_16_pt_29_November_2025.pdf, 95–96.

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    - “empty white transparent void”, “there is like a empty white transparent void right where your face you used to imagine was” (…, “Guided Exercise For Realizing You Are God”, 29 November 2020, 57 min., 45 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdWxdhEB19s)

    “The sotāpanna has had their first glimpse of the unconditioned[jargon] element, the asankhata,[citation needed] in which they see the goal, in the moment of the fruition of their path[clarification needed] (magga-phala). Whereas the stream-entrant has seen nibbāna and therefore has verified confidence in it, the arahant[13] can drink fully of its waters, to use a simile from the Kosambi Sutta (SN 12.68) of a "well" encountered along a desert road.[14]”
    Sotāpanna, 17 March 2026, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sotāpanna.

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Your OP and title aren't related ..and no deal with it because Buddha didn't say anything about God . Buddha denied all of Hindu gods and goddesses. He rejected all of Hindu religion and went to seek enlightenment on his own.and specifically seeking liberation from suffering ..not the truth or some answers to existential questions. 

 He actually teaches to his students that  the question of God is totally irrelevant and not important and that they should seek the end of suffering instead and that talking about God is philosophical luxury. He didn't prove that the Hindu gods don't exist but he said they are not eternal.
They are within samsara (the cycle of rebirth) just like humans .

 

This is a quote from some blog online:

 

"It is said that soon after his enlightenment the Buddha passed a man on the road who was struck by the Buddha’s extraordinary radiance and peaceful presence. The man stopped and asked,

~~~

My friend, what are you?
Are you a celestial being or a god?

No

said the Buddha

Well, then, are you some kind of magician or wizard?

again the Buddha answered

No

Are you a man?

No

Well, my friend, then what are you?

the Buddha replied

I am awake ".

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 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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A simpler explanation: reality is. Erase everything except this fact. Open yourself completely, without mind or structure, to the fact that you are, right now.

If nothing limits your perception, the totality of being manifests, and you are that.

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Buddhism is a clue.  Non duality is a clue.  Quantum physics is a clue. Psychedelics are a clue.  Gnostic Christianity is a clue, the word 'universe' is a clue, the all seeing eye atop the pyramid on the back of the ONE dollar bill is a clue, the Matrix movie is a clue, Plato is a clue and on and on it goes.

Don't make Buddhism something it isn't, just start connecting dots...

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@Someone here

    In that list of synonyms I am using God as a headword.
    The Buddha talked about nirvana, specifically.
    “This is called the Noble Truth of the Cessation of _dukkha_ (_Dukkhanirodhaariyasacca_), which is _Nibbāna_, more popularly known in its Sanskrit form of _Nirvāṇa_. (Rahula 1978, chap. 4, 35, https://archive.org/details/RdZW_what-the-buddha-taught-by-walpola-rahula-british-library-cataloguing)”
    “Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and the cessation of stress” (SN 22:86; MN 22)
    _Both formerly & now, it’s only stress that I describe, and nirvana._ (Rahula 1978, chap. 4, 36)”
    
    “_I don’t like (I am angry at, or saddened, frightened, confused, etc., by) (name) because (why/reason =)…_.” (Katie and Mitchell 2021, 22)
    _I hate (= “to dislike somebody/something very much”) Paul because …._ See https://www.actualized.org/forum/topic/113610-trump-is-god/?do=findComment&comment=1749981.
    “It's a process of dropping your hate.” (“Lester Levenson, … Sedona Method (2024)”, 213)
    “Reality is a race, consciousness is a race towards who can love (= “like or enjoy very much”) who more. That's what it is when you're completely selfless. … Everything you're doing in your life you might as well be collecting shoelaces or bottle caps that's that's how insignificant it is compared to the only thing you should be doing which is practicing love.” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg, 1 hr., 1 min., 55 sec.)
    “Are you willing to love the Holocaust?” (1 hr., 9 min., 10 sec.)
    _Are you willing to love Paul?_
    “If you were able to love as much as God what would happen is that this duality would completely merge and you would literally become God so the only thing separating you from God is simply your capacity to love which is just a function of how selfless you are” (…, “Outrageous Experiments In Consciousness - 30 Awakenings In 30 Days”, 19 April 2020, 1 hr., 41 min., 10 sec., https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnn0IU0-atg)
    “The top state is total selflessness. How much are we selfless? If we're at the top, we're totally selfless.” (“Lester Levenson, Hale Dwoskin - Lester Levenson (Sedona Method) Magnum Opus PDF-Lester Levenson _ Sedona Method (2024)”, 969)
    “When they criticize you and you notice that you love them with all your heart, your work is done.” (https://thework.com/2015/09/when-they-criticize-2/)

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@Lunatic Nirvana is not God .enough blending fish with oats and creating a raspberry pie . During Buddha’s liftime the hindus believed in gods and attributed to "Brahman" all godly qualities.  When buddha was asked if he considers himself god he cleary said no. When he was asked does God exist he clearly said this question is a waste of time .    

Buddha taught groundless. this means no functioning object can endure for a second moment of its own accord. 

therefore there is no such thing as an unchanging  ...selfsupporting functioning God which exists somewhere.  

 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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This is a Buddhist poem, or text. I don't like it, a lot of identification and projection, ideas that they want to put in the reader's mind. But when i read it first time I thought it was very deep. The difference lies in overlooking certain things that grate.

 

 

I am the master, pure and total consciousness, from which everything manifests. Pure and total consciousness is the supreme source; it has created the Buddhas of the three times. From it have arisen the beings of the three worlds and all that is animate and inanimate in the universe.
Pure and total consciousness has created everything and has created nothing. It has created everything because it has created its own nature, pure and total. It has created nothing because within it there is no need to create.
When my nature is not understood, and the phenomena that manifest from me become objects of judgment, desire and attachment give rise to the creation of a concrete vision—impermanent and destined to vanish like a magical appearance—and one becomes like a blind person who does not know what is happening.
As I transcend all affirmations and negations, I am beyond all phenomena. As there is no object that is not myself, I am beyond meditating on any view. As there is nothing to maintain apart from me, I am beyond the commitment of observing. As there is nothing to seek other than myself, I am beyond obtaining the capacity for spiritual action. As there is no place outside of me, I am beyond any level of realization to be surpassed. As I have never encountered obstacles, I am beyond everything as self-arising wisdom. As I am the ultimate unborn nature, I am beyond everything as the final subtle true nature.
I am called “the perfect condition” because everything is contained within me. I am called “the source” because the master, the teaching, and the disciples arise from my three natures.
I am the essence of all phenomena; nothing exists that is not my essence. The masters of the three dimensions are my essence. The Buddhas of the three times are my essence. The Bodhisattvas are my essence. The four types of yogis are my essence. The three worlds—of desire, of form, and of formlessness—are my manifestation. The five great elements are my essence. The six classes of beings are my essence. All that is inanimate is my essence. All that lives is my essence. All habitats and the beings that dwell within them are my essence. Nothing exists that is not my essence, because I am the universal root: there is nothing that is not contained within me. The unborn, the wonder of birth, and the manifestation of energy are the three aspects of the three masters: this is their condition.
As the three times—past, present, and future—reside exclusively in me, all Buddhas are in the same condition: this too is my essence. As I transcend the dualism of subject and object, like space I am all-pervading, and I constitute the fundamental substance of all phenomena. My essence is pure and total consciousness; I, who am the source, abide in the single state, and in this same authentic condition are the practitioners of the “four yogas.”
Recognize my nature, the supreme source that is pure and total consciousness. Teach that all phenomena of existence are only me. If you transmit my teaching, all your disciples will realize my nature and become this very same nature.
If my nature were to reveal itself compassionately to the beings of the three worlds that have arisen from me… Thus I, the supreme source, reveal my nature by showing it to myself.
Nothing other than this exists. None of the Buddhas has ever received a teaching higher than this from me, the source. Apart from this condition of equality beyond concepts, I myself—the supreme source from which everything arises—have absolutely nothing to show to myself.
Listen! As all of you are created by me, you beings of the three worlds are my children, equal to me, the supreme source. You are me, inseparable from me. Thus I manifest to you, and through the five masters of the natures I teach the single state of the five essences (the elements). I am the single state—I, the supreme source. You too are that; be certain of this.

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1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Lunatic Nirvana is not God .

    “Self (God) is Infinite, Limitless; One, Indivisible; Perfect; Changeless, Immutable; Timeless, Without Beginning or End; Whole, The All; Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent.” (Lester 1962, 65, https://archive.org/details/franklesterlesterlevensontheeternalverities2)
    I am saying that nirvana (Buddha's) and God as used by Lester Levenson, Leo Gura and Byron Katie refer to the same thing. (Likely.)

1 hour ago, Someone here said:

@Lunatic When buddha was asked if he considers himself god he cleary said no.

    That, likely, refers to sth else.

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8 minutes ago, Lunatic said:

 I am saying that nirvana (Buddha's) and God as used by Lester Levenson, Leo Gura and Byron Katie refer to the same thing. (Likely.)

And I'm saying they are not referring to the same thing . Like Google it. Nirvana is a Sanskrit word which  means ultimate permanent happiness. That's the goal of Buddhists. .to achieve nirvana which  means ultimate permanent happiness..not God. 

God is an entity that is the creator of everything and is omnipotent..omniscient..and eternal..not Nrivana .

Buddha said there is no such thing as god as that definition above . And his second opinion is even if there is a God it doesn't matter ..what matters is achieving nirvana .because Buddha said life is suffering which is the first noble truth . Why ? Because three things : disease..Old age ..death . And you will keep being born and die and born die endlessly unless you detach completely and attain enlightenment and then you exit samsara and be in nirvana forever. Nothing to do with  God existing or not .Buddha doesn't even care about whether there is a god or not . Please try to understand. If you don't believe me then do the research. 


 "When you get very serious about truth you accept your life situation exactly as it is. So much so that you aren't childishly sitting around wishing it were otherwise.If you were confined to a wheelchair you would just accept it as how reality is. Just as you now just accept that you are not a bird who can fly."

-Leo Gura. 

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