kavaris

History of Flaviius

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In Classical Greek (5th–4th c. BCE),  / χ / was pronounced  [kʰ] →  that is, [k] + puff of air (like an inner aspiration) within... Later, during the Hellenistic period, / χ / shifted:  /kʰ/ → /x/ → kch sound (like, "Bach", a rough, gutteral fricative sound)

That's when it starts to resemble German *Bach (e.g., Scottish loch... Or theres the Welsh breathy "hiss", though i think its higher pitch). It use to be quite different.

The point is, i dont actually know why it starts to go in that direction (someone mentioned the Babylonians having these kindve sounds, but those gutteral sounds are going through significant changes; Ergo its more complicated than that). The Phoenician alphabet had a letter called ḥet (𐤇) first of all, so we are beginning from the West. In some sortve round about way however, Akkadian/Assyrian eras in the timeline are going to encounter Egyptian inscriptions or Phoenician (possibly just stones assoc. w/ "tones"~sortve like runestones, introduced, or demonstrated as to why its better than scratching cuneiform marks).

*Note,  on the topic of *stones, scholars bring up Greek πέτρα in the bible alot, and totally miss the analogy somehow, but lets not get into it or we will be way off topic...

By the late first millennium BCE, Aramaic alphabet writing emerges alongside cuneiform, and they are like "Well fck, why are we writing these little unintelligible marks... We need to switch to this since the whole natural speaking world is tryina write us messages"

You cant send messages to Egypt unless you are writing in a shared languages. You can think of it like a proto-UN language: if two empires dont share a language for official documents, theres no way to make treaties, trade agreements, or military reports work reliably.

But what is the point to all of this? Well you can use the evolution of language to understand when or where these words are coming from, whether it be a word from the bible, or a word from something else. You can thus tell, for instance, take Paul, if Paul is using some word, we can tell where that word is coming from by looking at its etymology, and the sounds in it during his time.

p.s. Just to reiterate, you cant go by Proto-Indo European (unless you can see the actual connection it makes clearly), and nor can you go by Jewish Assyrian or Paleo-Hebrew, or Magikal Hebrew, or Hebrew-Hebrew, as they are languages that either are used as a *catch-all, or they are Magickal languages happening after the bible~unless your research is on the Medieval ages and Renaissance. But anyway, u dont want to investigate Hebrew, as its an *intentional deadend/limiter, like an intentional tribal garbage-collector language(s), granted they dont actually have distinct evidence, so you just have to imagine that there is some evolution/incentive leading up to distinct variations. Like the Bronze Age happened in 1200–1150 BC, but for Hebrew it was a Bronze Age Collapse happening every year~era, forcing them into a perpetual bronze age reboot... we're mostly reconstructing what we think is Hebrew from later forms, which hides centuries of variation!)

p.s.s. Egypt/Nile R., & the Red Sea is a natural divider, policing the border of the continents of Africa and the M.East. And thats not a coincidence. That's pure strategical history carved out, though it is later generations of Egypt that are closing the gates so to speak ~

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Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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I just wanna leave one more note here for yall to build on, and that is how this story is bigger than Jerusalem and surrounding areas ~ As the common fascination is w/ the common era (1st AD Century), the same 12 disciples, or the same characters that pertain to the new testament, and thats a story of not so many characters, and trying to work w/ evidence that youd be hard pressed to say one way over the other about. I found it interesting because it related to "Rome" and Greece. Like, i believe that theres a piece of Rome / Greece that we are missing in order to change things for the better. I dont think things are gonna change for the better by looking at Jesus for the 50'ith thousan'th time again.

Its the same situation w/ the old test., that is, your Noahs, Abrahams, Isaacs.. Jacobs, Josephs, Moses'... Alongside Aaron and Miriam (P.s. Moses is a common name... Thutmoses, Amenmose, Ramesses  essentially = RaMoses); And several hundred years later n the old testa., you got Joshua, Gideon, Naomi, Ruth, and Boaz, followed by Samuel, Jephthah, Ephraim, Samson, Saul, David and Solomon, and then Jehoshaphat, Elijah, Jehoram.

Similarly you have the Angels outside of the bible (though theres one or two mentioned in the bible~canon): Arariel, Ariel, Azazel, Azrael, Bachiel, Cassiel, Cherubim, Daniel, Eisheth, Gabriel, Jerahmeel, Jophiel, Lailah, Michael, Nuriel, Nephilim, Ramiel, Raphael, Raziel, Samael, Seraphim, Sariel, Teraphim, Uriel, Zerachiel

These are anecdotal figures from the ancient era, if they are real; Not characters that we know forwell (beyond any verses they might have in the bible). The new testament figures assoc., Jesus (or James or Mary) are the kinds of characters that fascinate ppl, but like, theres only so many times you can look at Luke 3:4 –> As it is written in the book of the words of Isaiah the prophet: Or ‘A voice of one calling in the wilderness... “Prepare the way for the Lord, make straight paths for him.

Theres mystical theology and material not included in the bible, but you are reading the same things over and over, its stuff about Jesus (or stuff leading up to him) and im not sure what the goal in all of that would be, other than being like a fake-intellectual scavenger hunt toward nothing. Theres little, if any, Philosophy hanging at the other side of the rainbow. But, if yous wanna see a crazy story, https://eulogikon.org/index_alphabetic

Start from the first figure at the top, "Abydenus the Historian", and just scroll up a little to see if the figures that start with /A/, see if they ever end... or count to yourself (1, 2, 3...) And see how long it takes to get to the first figure that starts with /B/...

Thats jus' a slice of all of the figures (starting with /A/ alone) that derive from the Ancient Greece / Roman era of literature and fragments, fragments that we've had passed down to us. That is the epitome of Philosophy since it contains the seeds of what would be the recordings of~and the guide itself on Philosophy; Philosophy as a common term/notion that ppl would come to know

I am going off topic, cause i already made a thread specifically on Philosophy, but this is just to say that, I wasnt actually interested in Jesus or the bible. I was tryina make a thread on whats-his-face, Josephus Flaviius to demonstrate that there are people from Jerusalem that are able to lead the story towards something \*else, instead of leading it BACK into that sht show that is Jerusalem,

And they somehow survive, possibly being lucky enough to tell the tale and say something significant, and not about, "glory to the lord". Someone like Josephus Flavius wouldve been an example of someone staggered and shook, and just trying to *resolve those events in his head, in some way that felt like it was the truth for his situation / dilemma. All lives / experiences are like a resolve of a particular dilemma that we are thrown into, you know, if it isnt Jesus, then its like the Planetary Aliens and the Galactic Light on the Pedestal or somethin. If it isnt Big Foot, then its the Abominable Snow Man / Yeti', if its not Skinwalker Ranch, its something else... I mean, theres gonna be something at the *center of the conversation, and Jesus just so happens to look like something that fits in the center of a story, but that is like, a pointer to an experience that is a mystery, in the same way a' rare unicorn creature in S.Amer., or N.Russia is a mystery~seeing as nobodies ever found it yet.

We continue to search for the unicorn, we continue to search for Jesus (or Satan, same thing, same *seed atleast). But these may not even be real people or creatures. History makes alot more sense when you see it from like a step-by-step, like carving one inscription on the wall at a time, and adding puzzle piece inscriptions to the canyon-side-winde or somethin', that which hold the most potential.

 

Edited by kavaris

Paraphrase from Poimandres (Corpus Hermeticum): "... that which is in the Word is also in ourselves."

Greek Magical Papyri (PGM): "I call upon the Word of the All, that which binds heaven and earth, and let it manifest in the circle."

Plato – Cratylus (439–440): "A name is a likeness of the thing itself; if rightly spoken, it carries the essence of what it names."

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Have you ever heard about Mauro Biglino?

He have something to say about the Real trasnlations of Exodus+Genesis..etc..

I had two book from him but I had no patience to go search about his claims. 

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