History of Flaviius

[kavaris]

If anyone is to do research on history and that critical year between the 1 BCE and 1st Century AD, youll likely come across Flavius Josephus. Hes got a very long, long story, and it has nothin to do w/ Jesus. I say that cause Jesus's name comes up next to his, though this is one of those things happening slightly offset from the crucifixions of the same vague years~give or take, and i think this story has alot more moving pieces, Alas you could write several TV shows just on the life and experiences of this guy, see for yourselves 

When we finally get to the point, an hour or so in, we see Josephus reflecting, right in the mid., of writing The Jewish War in Aramaic, intended for Jewish communities, and a Greek vers., shaped w/ Roman/Flavian audiences in mind; Tho only the Greek vers., survives.

Then there's Book 20, Chapter 9, Section 1:  Josephus describes the death of the high priest "Festus", and the power vacuum before his replacement "Albinus" arrived. The high priest Ananus (Annas II) took advantage of this gap in Roman oversight to convene a San'hedrin, and execute people he wanted gone. Josephus writes that Ananus brought before the Sanhedrin: "the brother of Jesus who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others, and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law, he delivered them to be stoned"

This execution of James (who we call the brother of "Jesus") is 62 AD by the deduction/offset ~ per the Josephus perspective, and this is corroborated by other sources like Eusebius and Hegesippus. Though im sure even this is debated, cause what isnt debated these days. So he's writing about events that happened roughly 30 years prior to himself. He himself would have been around 25–26 years old when James, the brother was executed.

Josephus (age ~25-26) when James was executed in 62 AD, so then working backwards, Josephus would be born around 37 AD. But it doesnt tell us about the time from Jesus TO James, atleast if you're going solely from Josephus. Also, this is the same~w/ regards to what we learn from those later figures, Eusebius and Hegesippus, who say James, brother of Jesus was executed in 62 AD. We can then bring in Pontius Pilate's governorship (26–36 AD). Taking it at face value, the execution falls somewhere within 26–36 AD—although we still dont know bout Jesus—tradition thus far tells us theres a 29-32 year gap between the James and Jesus execution.

Edited March 16 by kavaris

[kavaris]

And if any of yas like murder, death and assassination, this is a good time to mention, this is literally the age of murder, death and assassination ~ As anyone following the Apostles are being murdered, and likewise, anyone who wasnt Christian was ALSO being assassinated/murdered, at the exact same time. Literally, the age before Constantine I is called "The Age of Martyrs"; See also "Christian apologetics"

But the point to what I was tryina say is like, the history you dont normally learn about is the typeve assassins creed going on here, and just like, how many people are dying and dead because of it ~ The Age of Martys is also the age of Assassins Creed (NOTE: Assassins Creed I ive never played, but im pretty sure they didnt base it on this time period, but rather, a later time period heavily influenced on such things. I played the second one, like too long ago to even remember anything besides the Tuscany hills in the background)

Edited March 16 by kavaris

[NewKidOnTheBlock]

Didn't know about this guy in particuliar but yeah, he's definitely interesting to say the least. Romans had to allocate a lot of men and resources to put down that first rebelion mere 3 decades after Jesus's crucifixion, relative to the size and importance of that province which weren't all that great. Then 2 more rebelions after that. Granted, these people weren't some unorganized northern fools Romans were used to fighting before

[kavaris]

On 3/16/2026 at 4:18 PM, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

Didn't know about this guy in particuliar but yeah, he's definitely interesting to say the least. Romans had to allocate a lot of men and resources to put down that first rebelion mere 3 decades after Jesus's crucifixion, relative to the size and importance of that province which weren't all that great. Then 2 more rebelions after that. Granted, these people weren't some unorganized northern fools Romans were used to fighting before

Yes. ha. Exactly. Also, Hey, im glad i could introduce you to someone new as well. He... Oh heres a video that brings up Josephus in the beginning, as i have recently just did a writing on laws, traditions, beliefs, and the Last Jewish Heritage, &into Roman ppl/beliefs

Josephus is considered a really great ref., or window into tribes in and around Israel; I of course had focused on their heritage, traditions & beliefs (theres over 30 tribes in that area) And i bring this up to build upon the notion of them \*being much more organized then others might not know or realize at first sight...

This writing ive been doing on Philosophy and similar things within the Greek world ~ It starts to blend into the Ancient Israel tribes and beliefs around nature and civilization, mirroring the same rules/laws and such that they reiterated (im of course speaking to, "on nature" beliefs, or "words to live by" for your people, like "how your people should live") Those types of things. They are almost identical, atleast at the time in Greece and the area in and around Israel.

Im still watching the video, so i dont know if he gets into such things (but i assume he does), where as the writing i was doing was to show the parallels between Greek Philosophy (of Plato, The Stoics, et caetera) and the last Ancient Jewish traditions/philosophy~Of course, the Jewish people would have said it using their own words for it (unless they had gone to school in Greece or something), but what we often have to do, is to use known words like "democracy" that are originally from Greek, and we use that to draw parallels to ideas like that of Jews, though, they of course wouldve used their own words & terms for such things and ideas.

(Greeks did take over at points in history, but thats a diff topic of course). Anyway, the video seems to add/expand on some interesting details, which are interesting.

note, just to give you an idea of how many tribes there are, there's the following tribes (attempting to go in order from oldest, like a thousand BC to newest, 2nd CE), like the tribe of reuben, tribe of Levi, Dan, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Ephraim, Manasseh, Benjamin, Naphtali, Machir, Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes, Therapeutae, Zealots, Sicarii, Herodians, Samaritans, Nazarenes, Elcasaites, Marcionites, Valentinians, Sethians, Mandaeans, Ha-Derekh, Cerinthians, Carpocratians (iuno why, i feel like theres more listed in the bible and the torah)

Granted you might be more interested in the Roman/German side of things in Europe (or the Mystical Theology/Hermeticism side of things), though i meant to hint at the interesting stuff going on in the middle east at-the-time / parallel to this stuff

 

Edited Friday at 12:51 PM by kavaris

[kavaris]

(part ii) heres another good one. Back when these Jewish traditions were forming into what eventually takes shape into christianity canon, you had all these different ideas for what was meant by "Jesus" & "The Christ"... And "God"... Are they the same person? Are they all God? et caetera...

So this is just two that are similar, but theres literally like twenty of these groups and questions regarding this same topic: Cause on one hand you had Arianism, which yous can check out ^... You also had Cerinthianism (who were called Cerinthians, cause it was based on Cerinthius, ~late 1st century AD ...)

Ill let yous like up those two, cause they are both quite different. They do not just blindly accept "Jesus, God... the holy spirit.." Like, to them, making the distinction of what constitutes these things is critical! And rightly so, you know, like these ppl are super smart, intuitive... They were thinkin bout this stuff, religiously, literally, right? i mean, their whole worldview depending on it~And whats interesting is that, they are in~in some sense~taking direct control, or attempting to, in to what would be the "traditions to come" for Rome, and the world, as i see the Romans and these early Jewish sects as being on the heel of a somewhat traditionless side of our history, very much like modern America~Granted we had years of Christianity, but its like, Today you can believe in anything. Like you arent limited to anything, hence, traditionless children; Identical to Early Roman Empires.

*p.s. i chose two beliefs/figures that are somewhat similar in challenging the whole structure to get yous thinking, as its actually sortve tough to work out what each of them are about, given that, on the surface they have things in common. Theres so many figures that are present during the first 300 years or so of this like, early debate on what the *seed of the aspects to christianity are, and that seed of heresy has so many fkin figures, its like, thats a deep rabbit hole yous can go down (its almost neverending figures~one could pull up, like... iuno where they keep coming from; Same w/ Greece, but theres like 100,000x figures~which is part of the story of the Roman Emp.)

p.s.s. also this is sortve random, but (Ce)rinthians, (Co)rinthia, and (Ca)rinthia, are all different things, the last two being a places, Co- in Greece, Ca- in Austria. Theres also Corinthians from the bible~Which is itself Paul's letters, written to the Christian community he founded in the city of Corinth-, Greece.

Edited Saturday at 04:40 AM by kavaris

[kavaris]

(cont.)  The only thing i worry bout is, like say we are All in an *End of the world scenario, and we are on an island w/ foreign belief systems, like a grab bag of judainism, islamic ppl, like christian and or related, etc, etc, and suppose theres a life or death situation, And everything stems on the fact that iuno. Say for instance we need them to go out and kill a Sacred cow (to me, i could see how cows & cattle are sacred,  u kno, but in a life or death scenario u gota do wat u gota do for the greater good of the ppl)  Now if they are like "Oh i dont eat cow or pig on Ramadan.. im not gonna kill them while you build the boat" or something (suppose only i kno how to build the boat or sumthin), or if the christian guy is like, "i dont cut down trees as i was part of the Tree Relief program back on Amer.", ima be like, *What is the bs!? Yous are literally useless to our survival.

Like if anything, the ultimate belief system should be,"Dont stagger us to death, and pull out the carpet of survival on us".. Like if everyone on the imaginary desert island is like, "I Wana live", then atleast give us a heads up if we are to shift into death mode, so everyone can be mentally prepared in advance to go full death in mind.

Speaking of which, its startin to get hotter outer now, hotter than desert death so be prepd for that.

Edited Saturday at 12:42 AM by kavaris

[kavaris]

A Rant

Another issue is scholars and their "system of collecting garbage"... i.e.,  what is called Paleo-Hebrew and Proto-Indo-European, as they are both these literal garbage buckets for placeholder letter/words and script-assoc., that literally do not help us in any way, shape or form, especially understanding Hebrew, as  it make no sense... like ... for a scholar, if you see anything that looks like Phoenician, you just call it Hebrew XD, cause thats what many of the experts will do. And like, It doesnt matter what era, or what location or what culture may have used it at the time... "In two thousand years its gonna become Hebrew, Duh... It doesnt matter if they we're waiting until the Renaissance to see the language come to fruition".

Like, they mine as well walk around and point at things and say "Hebrew here", "Hebrew there".

What im sayin is, there are So many lineages of What i call "EP" or Early/Later Stage Pirate script" (which is not even including intermediaries between the hieroglyphics and what is to become later stage pirate lang, or phoenician), and considering how theres so many things written in Ancient Greek, yet, somehow, the most significant text in history was written in the rarest language for that time, before Ancient Greek?...

What are the chances of something like that happening. Im pretty sure its almost near zero. I mean, i don t have a crystal.ball as i dont know how many people there were writing texts on the topic, but to me it sounds like our history has been heavily fractured and filled w a bunch of scholars throwing garbage in places it shouldnt be, or they are really just like, incredibly hard headed.

Like, the common view on these things is being scewed by writers, researchers and scholars who wanna think that hebrew was a bigger deal than it was, like its not til 10th Century AD, getting into later stage medieval period that its brought back, like... people have no idea the bs they are being fed~Granted that doesnt mean theres nothing there or that it doesnt deserve as much attention now. "Now" is a totally different time in history. "Now" is the present moment, the period we all know. But "Now" isnt our *Ancient history, like, we want to preserve ancient history, right? We want to do history justice.

Edited 4 hours ago by kavaris

[kavaris]

(part ii) i just wanna add this last conclusion and summary to sortve broaden wat i mean here.

Its terribly distracting to realize that the history of Hebrew makes no sense when you are tryina do research—Like its being used to generalize, in the same way Phoenician & PIE are used to generalize, and likely others too

I mean, it doesnt help us to understand Hebrew is what im sayin, as according to~you can take any era of Phoencian and call it "Lalalala-lalalala", without any consideration within the two thousand years that have existed in between...

Also Runic Italic/Latin isnt a direct descendent of Greek, but rather is essentially collolaborative in nature, as it doesnt develop after, but alongside, just without the advanced and organized foundations, like Runic Italic is falling upon those to be~of the Italy-Germanic Runic half, who are still not entirely organized by the time Greece gets their sht together. And then, Greeks (after Linear B, after that got their sht together, seeing as they were a bunch of pirates, like Phoenicians) at which point they then come to Italy, and they create a society, inviting Etruscans, Italic ppl, etc., and although there are still going to be battles nd such, per the eras where battles were how u solved issues, it is still an example of how Runic Italic collabs w/ Greece, and so, that is to say, we dont need to think too hard bout the fact that italic and Greek wouldve been collabing at a couple points in their history.

Like its also frustration when ppl still think Runic Italic/Latin lineage is a direct relative of Greek ~ Like, thats not how it works. Thats not how Later Pirate Language influences the world, by jus visiting this one, tiny area over and over. It has multiple levels of influences in the mediterranean and beyond (effecting every language)

(🇮🇹 p.s. i call the Greeks pirates (which i feel is a compliment), but im not sure u would call the Italic/Celtic wave a pirate lineage yet, atleast at this point, cause they are coming into Europea from the northish, and thus are more land-based, atleast during this era, but hey, its very possible they wrapped around, evolving into sailors, as the Greeks essentially wrapped around, settling &becoming *New landlubbers, Neapoli, sortve like orthogonal opposites... or two antipodal points or something)
 

Edited 4 hours ago by kavaris

[Rafael Thundercat]

Hard to read all this. What is the goal or point for you to all this research? I mean how this can help in the understanding of the present?