How To Know If Your Last Meal was Good for Your Body

[Ramasta9]

 

[Carl-Richard]

Let's say I eat a meal, I get dehydrated, I drink, and I'm no longer dehydrated. What is wrong there? The video actually didn't explain why transient dehydration is bad (except "animals don't drink with their meals, we never observe that in nature", which is itself dubious).

Also, please rate the hydration of my new morning meal:

• 1 kiwi fruit (with skin)
• 5 eggs (lightly scrambled; cooked on low heat in pan until chunky but still slightly moist/runny). With freshly ground black pepper and tiny amounts of 50/40 Na/K salt.
• Quick oats porridge (100 ml quick oats, 2.5 dl water, brought to boil and cooked for 2 minutes in pot).
• 10g of pumpkin seeds (cooked together with the oats)
• 200g frozen or fresh blueberries (mixed into porridge when done cooking).

Edited yesterday at 04:36 AM by Carl-Richard

[Ramasta9]

2 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Let's say I eat a meal, I get dehydrated, I drink, and I'm no longer dehydrated. What is wrong there? The video actually didn't explain why transient dehydration is bad (except "animals don't drink with their meals, we never observe that in nature", which is itself dubious).

Also, please rate the hydration of my new morning meal:

• 1 kiwi fruit (with skin)
• 5 eggs (lightly scrambled; cooked on low heat in pan until chunky but still slightly moist/runny). With freshly ground black pepper and tiny amounts of 50/40 Na/K salt.
• Quick oats porridge (100 ml quick oats, 2.5 dl water, brought to boil and cooked for 2 minutes in pot).
• 10g of pumpkin seeds (cooked together with the oats)
• 200g frozen or fresh blueberries (mixed into porridge when done cooking).

We are not meant to feel dehydrated at all. When we feel thirsty and dehydrated its actually one of the bodies final signals that we need hydration. I don't know how to rate, all i can say is that observe after each meal how much water you feel the need to drink within the next 15 - 30 minutes.

I rarely drink water at all, especially when I have more fresh fruit. Sometimes I have tea and water more when I am eating cooked meals but I never feel as alive, healthy and hydrated. Water doesn't seem to hydrate as greatly as fresh fruit. Which is why i always try start my day with a nice big melon. My heaviest meals would be lunch or dinner, rarely after 6 pm.

 

 

Edited yesterday at 05:02 AM by Ramasta9

[Cred]

According to Buteyko, there is a painfully easy method to know if something you ate was bad for you:

Did your breathing volume increase after eating? If yes, then it wasn't good for you.

[Ramasta9]

1 hour ago, Cred said:

According to Buteyko, there is a painfully easy method to know if something you ate was bad for you:

Did your breathing volume increase after eating? If yes, then it wasn't good for you.

That doesn't make sense. When I eat light and fruit i have a lot of space and oxygen in my body and naturally take long deep breaths. When i stuff myself with heavier meals I struggle to breathe because I have stomach / colon full of matter.

Edited yesterday at 06:28 AM by Ramasta9

[Cred]

OK, let me be more precise. What I meant was "less volume per second".

Long breaths can calm the nervous system very well, there is nothing wrong with them, except if you breathe more volume per second then necessary.

There exist misconceptions about oxygen intake. This myth suggests, that "the more you breathe, the more oxygen is in your blood". This is wrong.

If you don't happen to hold your breath for a long time, which I assume you don't in every day activity, then there's always enough oxygen in your blood. What's crucial is not how much oxygen is in your blood, but how well the oxygen is delivered to the cells.

This is where it gets counterintuitive. The more CO2 you have in your blood, the more oxygen can be delivered to your cells. This is called the Bohr effect. What this means is, the less CO2 you breathe out, meaning, the less volume you breathe per second, the more effectively your cells will get supplied with oxygen.

The best way to achieve this is by relaxing the diaphragm. It is called "reduced breathing" and it is an art in and of itself. 

This is why in advanced Kriya yoga, the aim is to reach the "breathless state".

Edited yesterday at 06:48 AM by Cred

[Ramasta9]

7 hours ago, Cred said:

OK, let me be more precise. What I meant was "less volume per second".

Long breaths can calm the nervous system very well, there is nothing wrong with them, except if you breathe more volume per second then necessary.

There exist misconceptions about oxygen intake. This myth suggests, that "the more you breathe, the more oxygen is in your blood". This is wrong.

If you don't happen to hold your breath for a long time, which I assume you don't in every day activity, then there's always enough oxygen in your blood. What's crucial is not how much oxygen is in your blood, but how well the oxygen is delivered to the cells.

This is where it gets counterintuitive. The more CO2 you have in your blood, the more oxygen can be delivered to your cells. This is called the Bohr effect. What this means is, the less CO2 you breathe out, meaning, the less volume you breathe per second, the more effectively your cells will get supplied with oxygen.

The best way to achieve this is by relaxing the diaphragm. It is called "reduced breathing" and it is an art in and of itself. 

This is why in advanced Kriya yoga, the aim is to reach the "breathless state".

Interesting, I'll have to look more into that. My natural breathing pattern kinda like a cat, its mysterious, unpredictable, unnoticeable. I take deep long breaths when i remember or when i want to energize and accelerate my system, and often i find i even hold my breath for long periods of time comfortably regardless if its after the inhale or exhale, often without noticing and deep in thought or contemplation. Breathing sometimes bothers me, especially when I am in deeper states of consciousness, the need to breath disturbs my meditation sometimes, i know its a weird thing to say but its been something I have noticed from time to time. I love going to the mountains especially for how rich the experience of breathing becomes.

 

[Cred]

53 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Breathing sometimes bothers me, especially when I am in deeper states of consciousness, the need to breath disturbs my meditation sometimes

Yes this is a part of the point of the "breathless state". More CO2 also raises the action potential of the neurons, making them fire less which reduces thinking spirals.

This is why people with anxiety hyperventilate, it's the brain trying to lower the action potential to increase neurotic thinking.

[Carl-Richard]

11 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

I don't know how to rate, all i can say is that observe after each meal how much water you feel the need to drink within the next 15 - 30 minutes.

I rarely drink water at all, especially when I have more fresh fruit. Sometimes I have tea and water more when I am eating cooked meals but I never feel as alive, healthy and hydrated. Water doesn't seem to hydrate as greatly as fresh fruit. Which is why i always try start my day with a nice big melon. My heaviest meals would be lunch or dinner, rarely after 6 pm.

I drink maybe a sip or two of water right after the meal to rinse my mouth (I also take vitamin/mineral/fishoil supplements with a sip of water during the meal). Perhaps a sip or two after brushing my teeth (not necessarily).

Then the rest of the day if I'm not working out and only taking walks and working on the computer, I've noticed I sometimes don't actually need to drink before the next meal (although I can be misremembering; I have not done this specific meal that many times yet). I noticed this also with my previous version of the same meal (which used toasted bread and instead of porridge and less blueberries), after I started with the sodium-potassium salt. When I used regular salt, I used to be much more thirsty.

If you look at each single meal component above (in finished/cooked form), they sit at around 70-90% water all of them (even the eggs). So reductionistically speaking, the meal should be just as hydrating as a fruit monomeal.

Edited 16 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Carl-Richard]

12 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

We are not meant to feel dehydrated at all. When we feel thirsty and dehydrated its actually one of the bodies final signals that we need hydration.

While that is true, the question is how much does it matter to be dehydrated for a couple of minutes or whatever it takes for you to get to the point of drinking water and elevating your bodily hydration to normal?

It's like you have 24 hours of the day to be either optimally hydrated or dehydrated. If the thirst signal has a delay in the span of minutes for maintaining optimal hydration, and you follow that signal, you will probably only be off by a couple percentage points each day even if you eat the most insanely dehydrating foods.

It's the same logic with how working out can increase longevity even if it involves putting your body through heavy strain for a couple of minutes/hours each day. The strain is only a couple of minutes/hours each day, out of 24 hours (or whatever the workout rate is). So the adapative benefits from working out can outweigh the effects of strain during the workout, because the strain is so little compared to the overall picture.

Edited 16 hours ago by Carl-Richard

[Ramasta9]

 

@Carl-Richard I think the point i was making is that when we feel 'thirsty', we have already been dehydrated for a long time, possibly hours. Apparently we are never meant to feel thirst at all, in an ideal body / health / world.

In my research its actually ideal to drink a glass or two 30 minutes before a meal (assuming its not a fruit or water-rich meal). At the same time it is not wise to drink too soon after eating such meal, rather waiting at least 15 minutes. There's some science to this i remember reading i just can't remember at the top of my head. 

Whats even better is a glass of orange juice or freshly squeezed fruit juice because the water is alive and structured and highly charged.

Its becoming increasingly challenging to find truly alive and rich mountainous spring water that properly hydrates, and its usually only alive and structured at the source, and changes when bottled and shipped. We need special solar / magnetic spinners and oxygenation techniques that keep the water moving and active to keep it alive, oxygen/hydrogen-rich, and truly hydrating for us. 

Most springs humans have easy access to today have been polluted and need to be filtered and handled with care.

 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Ramasta9 said:

I think the point i was making is that when we feel 'thirsty', we have already been dehydrated for a long time, possibly hours. Apparently we are never meant to feel thirst at all, in an ideal body / health / world.

Why is thirst/dehydration not OK but hunger/fasting is?

[Ramasta9]

1 hour ago, Carl-Richard said:

Why is thirst/dehydration not OK but hunger/fasting is?

I am not sure how to answer this. In my research they say that true hunger is thirst and comes from the (back of the throat) not the stomach. The stomach is more related to critters / parasites / bacteria ect... needing their feed, rather than true signal of hunger, as our natural diet is said to be mostly fresh fruit, we would often not experience such a hunger but more a thirst, then after we have fruit or water, that hunger or feeling in the stomach goes away. So i was always taught when hungry, drink a large glass of water, wait 10 - 15 minutes and observe if you are still hungry.

I believe we evolved with fasting mostly and eating far less frequently than we do today. I feel today people Live to Eat rather than Eat to live, and i think that's the problem with the world, we've become so caught up with food and eating, half of our day or most goes to thinking, preparing, eating food.

Where as in ancient times we would go often days without food until we find a food source, and often perfectly healthy. There is a lot of science that points to great longevity benefits eating once a day or every other day, compared to the modern 3 meals a day with snacks in between.

And such a static-lifestyles we live today, we get bored or see food or smell it we end up over-doing/eating everything and our bodies never get a chance to actually heal and clear waste so its piling up day by day. In ancient times we were constantly moving, gathering, exploring, building that we probably only spend the last few others of the evening sitting and relaxing, and this constant active lifestyle keeps us in superb health and breathing properly and moving / exercising our demons out, so to speak, whether its physical, mental or emotional, such an active lifestyle is in constant purging and circulation of old waste / energy ect...

Edited 6 hours ago by Ramasta9

[Carl-Richard]

2 hours ago, Ramasta9 said:

as our natural diet is said to be mostly fresh fruit, we would often not experience such a hunger but more a thirst, then after we have fruit or water, that hunger or feeling in the stomach goes away.

Is this not entirely inconsistent with "Apparently we are never meant to feel thirst at all, in an ideal body / health / world."?