How big is the Israel-Genocide topic in your country?

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

@Elliott You are not very good at this whole history thing, you should probably just stay in your lane; whatever that lane is

Post a source, Mr. Dunning-kruger. All you do is post insults and never any examples to back up your ignorance.

"The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הֶסְכֵּם הַעֲבָרָה, romanized: heskem haavara, lit. 'transfer agreement') was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine between 1933 and 1939.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

 

go check your broTube podcasts for what to cry about next, big man.

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[NewKidOnTheBlock]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

Post a source, Mr. Dunning-kreuger. All you do is post insults and never any examples to back up your ignorance.

"The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הֶסְכֵּם הַעֲבָרָה, romanized: heskem haavara, lit. 'transfer agreement') was an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine between 1933 and 1939.[1]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

 

go check your broTube podcasts for what to cry about next, big man.

I'm just saying that accurate interpretations of history always come from a neutral place. You are absolutely incapable of doing so and thus your interpretations are and always will be ideologically tainted. If you only give a shit about your ideology, then just stick to that and leave history and all the other unrelated things out of it unless you want to forever come off as a moron to everyone in here. This is clearly just another crybaby effort of yours to shift all the blame onto Europe to feel better about yourself and your "country" lmfao

Germany did not in fact created Israel and Europe did not create zionism; this line of thought might as well bring us towards a conclusion that Roman Empire is the one to blame; or maybe empires prior to that. It's just retarded but you clearly don't care about the accuracy nor the truth, so that's why I'm saying you should just stick to current politics

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[Elliott]

8 minutes ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I'm just saying that accurate interpretations of history always come from a neutral place. You are absolutely incapable of doing so and thus your interpretations are and always will be ideologically tainted. If you only give a shit about your ideology, then just stick to that and leave history and all the other unrelated things out of it unless you want to forever come off as a moron to everyone in here.

So, still no example, reference, source, anything. You, absolutely weren't saying that, you said my history was wrong, correct me!

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This is clearly just another crybaby effort of yours to shift all the blame onto Europe to feel better about yourself and your "country" lmfao

My country is the u.s., the ones that officially established Israel. No innocence here.

Again, just dunning-kruger shit.

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[NewKidOnTheBlock]

12 minutes ago, Elliott said:

You, absolutely weren't saying that, you said my history was wrong, correct me!

I just corrected you, Nazi Germany did not create Israel (not with that 1933 policy at least). That's what you claimed. Jewish settlers had been moving to the Palestine area for decades prior. Also, Israel as a state obviously did not exist.

Dunning-kruger describes you and all the half baked shit you keep confidently posting. And you're also so smug about LMAO go be a meat shield against ICE cause you're not up to par with most people in here intelectually

[Elliott]

3 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I just corrected you, Nazi Germany did not create Israel (not with that 1933 policy at least). That's what you claimed. Jewish settlers had been moving to the Palestine area for decades prior. Also, Israel as a state obviously did not exist.

No you didn't, you just now added that with an edit. It's absolutely not what I said, claimed, or posted, Doc. Try context clues next time, maybe watch a podcast on that.

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Dunning-kruger describes you and all the half baked shit you keep confidently posting. And you're also so smug about LMAO go be a meat shield against ICE cause you're not up to par with most people in here intelectually

You three have kept posting this stuff for the last month like I care what fools think. Keep posting it, let's me know I get to you.

Pretty funny how you used intellectually here, maybe look that one up too! I don't mean you're not an intellectual, you are, you just used the term incorrectly, while trying to use it as an insult. You used it as 'intelligence', that's not what intellectual means, Kruger. The 'intellectual' equivalent of "your stupid".

Come back soon, Cupcake!

* I also don't encourage "meat-shielding for ice". You make an amazing amount of assumptions. 

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[NewKidOnTheBlock]

18 hours ago, Elliott said:

For example, Hitler initially ordered all jews to leave, Germany is actually who created modern Israel, for this purpose(though it was british territory). He later killed those that didn't leave.

 

 

18 hours ago, Elliott said:

The current genocide in Palestine is a continuation from Europe's first settlement there.

@Elliott You've also made all sorts of other half baked historical claims and comparisons outside of this thread. That's why I keep insisting that you just stick to political activism and maybe to history of your country only; where you can afford to be simplistic and biased like that, cause you don't know about much else LUL

Also, what the hell is this, did you attempt to edit that post? LMFAO

 

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

 

 

@Elliott You've also made all sorts of other half baked historical claims and comparisons outside of this thread. 

And you didn't correct me there either? You just emote correction? I love history and study it all the time, just because it doesn't align with your feelings doesn't mean it's incorrect.

 

I never claimed this. Aren't you British, English not good you? Intellectualize harder here @NewKidOnTheBlock. I never even mentioned havaara until you started freaking out. Did you know about Havaara? it seems to have sent you into a sort of apoplectic shock.

10 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

I just corrected you, Nazi Germany did not create Israel (not with that 1933 policy at least). That's what you claimed. Jewish settlers had been moving to the Palestine area for decades prior. Also, Israel as a state obviously did not exist.

Dunning-kruger describes you and all the half baked shit you keep confidently posting. And you're also so smug about LMAO go be a meat shield against ICE cause you're not up to par with most people in here intelectually

You admit Israel started because of Germany, don't you? You actually agree with my original claim, now, just not semantically. I didn't mean they officially started it(i clarified it was british territory), Paper writings really don't mean much compared to action like Germany's.

You need to practice socializing, bud. You lack basic social skills.

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[Nivsch]

@Breathe I wrote 'probably' only because I can't decide if it was Netanyahu that wanted that or mostly political pressure from the far right that affected him. I am an Israeli and from knowing my country and its complexity for decades, the generalizations I read here are detached from reality.

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[Schahin]

1 hour ago, Nivsch said:

@Breathe I wrote 'probably' only because I can't decide if it was Netanyahu that wanted that or mostly political pressure from the far right that affected him. I am an Israeli and from knowing my country and its complexity for decades, the generalizations I read here are detached from reality.

As an Israeli your media wont show you the disaster and tragedy in Gaza.

Netanyahu was the one commanding to destroy Gaza like Amalec, also Gilal Gamliel from the Likud Party and many others have stated that Gaza must be totally destroyed up unto the point that its uninhabitable. 

They say it out loud publicly its no secret. Do you know Guy Peleg, the journalist that exposed the incredible abuse and mistreatment of Palestinian Prisoners (9000 of them innocently kept in prison) He exposed that there were Gang Rapes and incredible torture happening to the Captives and then was threatened with murder even by Government Officials

[Schahin]

3 hours ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

 

 

@Elliott You've also made all sorts of other half baked historical claims and comparisons outside of this thread. That's why I keep insisting that you just stick to political activism and maybe to history of your country only; where you can afford to be simplistic and biased like that, cause you don't know about much else LUL

Also, what the hell is this, did you attempt to edit that post? LMFAO

 

 

You could stick to the Topic and say where you are from and how the debate is being held in your country. 

We have AI and can very easily search  if certain historical facts are true or wrong. But that Zionism in itself is an illegal way of settlement, not because the people that did so were being persecuted but because where they settled they killed 15.000 Palestinians and displaced 750.000 in order to move into their houses. 

And Up until today Zionism does so and promotes a racial superiority thinking, that they are the only chosen people of God and have the divine right to inhabit all that area which is already inhabited so they are even permitted to use violence against the Indigenous

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[NewKidOnTheBlock]

3 hours ago, Elliott said:

And you didn't correct me there either? You just emote correction? I love history and study it all the time, just because it doesn't align with your feelings doesn't mean it's incorrect.

That's because I can't be bothered, obviously. Who cares about correcting some random dilettante such as yourself? After enough BS accumulates from the likes of you however, a certain pattern can be noticed and conclusions can be drawn. So I felt like pointing out the obvious and I did. LOL

Also you can stop capping bud with that love of history nonsense, what else are you going to cap about next? Do you also love fuckin guitar playing and cooking and cook and play guitar all the time? Whatever suits you in winning points in a pointless internet debate right? Come on bro lmao

3 hours ago, Elliott said:

You admit Israel started because of Germany, don't you? You actually agree with my original claim, now, just not semantically.

No I don't agree with it in any way whatsoever. Germany did not in fact create Israel, it just sped up it's creation with the attrocious actions they've commited. Zionism was born long before Nazi Germany ever existed and before WW1 even. Might be just semantics to you but it does make a difference in ones perception of reality and historical events, which you obviously don't care about

And yeah I'm not a native speaker, so what? I'm still right and you're a dummy lmfao maybe you need it to be translated to Chinese for you to finally get it?

3 hours ago, Elliott said:

You need to practice socializing, bud. You lack basic social skills.

This is an indication that you might be capping about your social life as well, because everyone knows internet debating have nothing to do with social skills

[Elliott]

1 hour ago, NewKidOnTheBlock said:

 

And yeah I'm not a native speaker, so what? I'm still right and you're a dummy lmfao maybe you need it to be translated to Chinese for you to finally get it?

I thought you were. That's probably the problem.

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This is an indication that you might be capping about your social life as well, because everyone knows internet debating have nothing to do with social skills

I mean this isn't how you should go about a disagreement like this. Possibly a cultural disconnect. 

End of discussion

If you whine again I'm just going to block you.

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[Schahin]

@NewKidOnTheBlock @Elliott

 

Allright I think you two should be mute on this discussion if you want to argue in such way.

Please only say where you are from and how the topic is being debated in your country, you are hijacking this thread. Please just use AI to get facts on this discussion and then post it here, its the smartest thing to do.

But the original Topic is: Where are you from and how is this topic debated in your country or how big is it.

I dont want to go back in history to the Holocaust, as it was probably one of the most disgusting events in human history and the Germans are absolutely disgusting, not only back then but today as well with their support of the Palestinian Genocide. I live in Germany, I know it.

We are talking about the current situation and there we have the obvious fact that Palestinians have been occupied and supressed since 1948, the Holocaust  and Germany is irrelevant for this topic