Hawara, lost labyrinth

[kavaris]

Since we brought up the pyramids, i figured, hey, why not, lets get into the lost labyrinth now, as its the next upcoming adventure into the word of egypt and its sites (see my map, as ill jus repost it here in codeblock form). I found a video from ~11 hours ago, ero, its not like its old, vecchio news. Its something they are currently working on. Plus, I believe she talks about what the labyrinth is.

p.s. every site i mapped out has, by virtue of its constructions and etchings, is just like, very very strange, and the deeper you go the stranger it gets

                              (N)
                   ^^^^(Mediterranean Sea)^^^^^^Canaan aka Israel ↗ Assyrian conquest ~722 BCE
                                                               Aramaic becomes dominant in Israel region
                   ↖ Alexandria | Nile (flows N to S)
                           Land of Onias / East of Nile | Heliopolis ↙ ~30 km from Cairo
                        Giza Plateau / Cairo                            ~110 km from the Red Sea
                   (Pyramids & Sphinx
                           & Memphis, old capital)
                                |
                       Hawara  ~75 km ↖ (from Memphis)
                   (Labyrinth / Faiyum)
         Akhenatens Cty ~200 km |                   ↓ 2,000 km ↑ | N to S
                          ^^^(Nile, cont.)^^^  @  ^^^(Red Sea)^^^
                                |         ← 250 km from river to sea @median →
                       ~580 km  | ~100 km from Abydos (Osireion) to Dendera
                             Dendera
                    (Oh'Hathor, Temple in Denderus)
                         ~60 km  \
                                Thebes
                                 (Luxor & Karnak)
                           ~100 km  |
                                   Edfu
                             (Temple of Horus)
                          ~160 km  /
                                Aswan
                         ~75 km   |
                                Nubia (Sudan)
  ~

 

Edited February 14 by kavaris

[kavaris]

Lol  okay wait. i thought of somethin while watchin the video. Its missin either: Authentic egyptian folk music w/ an Oud/sitar element to it (jus personal pref.) or one of these like, modernized arabic rhythms that emphasize the *off-beat in such a way that its literally tryina be the weirdest thing u ever heard in ur life~which makes it sound cool imo

 

Edited February 14 by kavaris

[kavaris]

For this next one, i couldve spend hours diggin n lookin for this typeve sound, but this atleast gets across the *authentically egyptian~arabic sound of the *Oud and various accompanying instru.,

 

[LastThursday]

Good stuff @kavaris I haven't watched the video yet, but I will. I'm itching to know what's really under the sand there. Here's an older video that goes into some of the ins and outs of it, and an intriguing conclusion that there is something large and oddly shaped buried there:

 

[kavaris]

42 minutes ago, LastThursday said:

Good stuff @kavaris I haven't watched the video yet, but I will. I'm itching to know what's really under the sand there. Here's an older video that goes into some of the ins and outs of it, and an intriguing conclusion that there is something large and oddly shaped buried there:

 

Ha. Hey glad i got somethin u are interested in. Now, since ive incorporated this Arabic sound into the convo., parallel to egypt, its drivin me crazy now~tryina find what the name of this beat is in Arabic musik (that is, the beat in the music video) That sortve, *Back beat* feel, ive heard it in many arabic songs, and now i cant move off the topic til i find what its called, that is, the name of that specific rhythm in, what i wana say is this modern-take on a weird bongo beat thats been popularized and made even more weird... Like if we called it a weird triplet (one,two,three) where the "two, three" are considered like eighth notes, then we might say the "emphatic One" (thats the bassy drum *Hit i think we hear in the song) is stationary, but the proceeding eighth notes are like *wondering eighths, such that they wrap around to the emphatic One in a weird way... OR... It could jus be considered a weirdified triplet, like a military/marching band lead-in, staggered, and made into a beat. I tried describing it like that but i think it can only be found through the name(s) its been called.

Edited February 14 by kavaris

[kavaris]

ah i think i jus gotta declare it now impossible to figure out the name of it. Unless of course, someone whos in Arabia~surrounding areas happens to kno what it is and can clue us in. give us a hint.

[kavaris]

That img @1:30 looks neat, i.e.

And assoc., w/ it, it says "According to the 19th-century architect Luigi Canina, the Egyptian Labyrinth was a vast, two-level funerary complex; His reconstruction depicts a structure w/ twelve main, enclosed, interconnected courts, designed to disorient visitors?,  And housing both a temple and thousands of rooms for royal, subterranean tombs"

Edited February 14 by kavaris

[kavaris]

Siti antichi, tomba degli uccelli ed Erodoto

Now, the other option (if we take out space from the equat., for a moment) is the deep, vast ocean exploration. Like, although i love the ocean, and i want ta be a mer'man in the oceans, i think its just like, "going on vacation", like its TOO enjoyable. However, there are things that are just at the coastlines, of say Spain and France that dont require deep sea vessles. Like you jus go scuba diving and say "Whas up". I suppose thats perfectly normal, accessible and can be explored. Bu then I guess, its really all the land things that we can see clearly already, that are most interesting, right? Like, seeing as theres like, clearly pits leading down into Giza for instance, or whatchamakalit, the labyrinth (several sites seem to denote another layer existing underneath). But anyway. What was i saying. Oh, thats it. Like, i never made the connection between the *pits of giza, and those radar shots that the italians did to get that viral thing bout like, pillars or whatever it shows, like i didnt make that connection. But also, ppl have refuted that italian teams radar results since it sortve skipped through all of the lines they had to wait in or something in order to get like, approved? iuno. I havent looked into that end of the story enough. I just know theres something called The Tomb of the Birds that corres. to these *Pits of the birds. And, when it comes to the Labyrinth, i remember Herodotus says, "its like a complex, multi passage halls connecting everything..."

Edited February 14 by kavaris

[kavaris]

i should prolly post that giza vid., that way, theres a ref. point between: *Giza (canon), up-close and personal, and then this introduction into what is to become... The... Uh hm wait, do the labyrinths have a name now? I guess just "labyrinth" is short and sweet. How many labyrinths are there in the world?

 

[LastThursday]

ChatGPT says either Maqsum, Baladi, Malfuf or Saidi.

I like that guy in the video, just wandering about the Giza plateau doing this and that. When I went to the pyramids I wish I'd had more time to wander about, I could have spent days just doing that.

I think with the imaging of the huge structures under the pyramids, if there had been any more to it, then they'd still be talking about it now but they're not. To me it doesn't seem plausible as having any amount of voids under the weight of the pyramids is probably structurally unsound; you want solid bedrock all the way down. Saying that there's definitely a rabbit warren of tunnels throughout the plateau, some probably man-made most probably natural.

I think if they begin to dig up the labyrinth it will turn out to be huge and probably one of the biggest constructions in Egypt.

I need to go back there!

[kavaris]

7 hours ago, LastThursday said:

ChatGPT says either Maqsum, Baladi, Malfuf or Saidi.

I like that guy in the video, just wandering about the Giza plateau doing this and that. When I went to the pyramids I wish I'd had more time to wander about, I could have spent days just doing that.

I think with the imaging of the huge structures under the pyramids, if there had been any more to it, then they'd still be talking about it now but they're not. To me it doesn't seem plausible as having any amount of voids under the weight of the pyramids is probably structurally unsound; you want solid bedrock all the way down. Saying that there's definitely a rabbit warren of tunnels throughout the plateau, some probably man-made most probably natural.

I think if they begin to dig up the labyrinth it will turn out to be huge and probably one of the biggest constructions in Egypt.

I need to go back there!

 

Ha. glad you like Egypt. Good to see alot of yous are very exp. w/ it, i myself have never been so i really cant say more than i have already.

Like i always say, you need passion and a period without war or famin to really focus on something like this. But anyway, there are def theories that go even beyond, involving constructions around it, separate ftom my own, like theories that involve these like, elaborate ways of digging the pyramid into existence, but to me like, the pyramids made of blocks, right? Like they arent attached under each block.

So they are being placed like a block would be placed. but you are right! If theres any sortve massive constructions used for said constructions, where are they? And hey, i lay no claim to saying there was a massive construction. I only say those constructed constructions exist in plain sight. I say everything they used is likely there. And hey, maybe some of it got repurposed, pieces, important pieces without a doubt.

its also like, why would the thing they were working on around it be any more advanced than the pyramid itself. Like, why invest too much time thinking into what this final construct. gonna be, contrasted to the pyramid itself. cause like depending on how long its gonna take, is the next generation to take up the mantle to even know what a pyramid is, alas it feels like theres a thousand years to get it straight in their head. Theres time to smile and smell the flowers, otherwise its like, building massive constru., in the heart of all the dynastic wars nd such, which clearly it had to have been before that.

Edited Sunday at 05:23 PM by kavaris

[kavaris]

@LastThursday You look familiar too. ha, i had a friend that you reminded me of, i almost thought you were him for a moment too.

When it comes to this labyrinth, i know alot less about it. And i guess all of us do, since weve yet to see jus wat all the hub bub is about. From what i understand, this labyrinth is touted to be bigger and crazier than like, all of the egyptian sites, or so thats what i always heard —

That is, its said to be like (im paraphrasing) X amount xtimes larger than either one pyramid, or the land of the pyramids. Im having trouble remembering, but they mention precise measurements all the time, so thats sortve like, a reference point to what it might be, or perhaps what it really is, who knows (its mentioned like, all the time when talking bout the labyrinth, and i completely forget)

Edited Sunday at 05:55 PM by kavaris

[kavaris]

I also have a theory around why such a period of ancient knowledge was lost to the dynastic era, as i believe one of the earliest civilizations had insights into a cataclysm/type event via ancient astrology, and whomever was first to really understand this, had let said information leak by accident (or it was stolen),

But upon doing so, that information was used in the wrong ways, and it sortve lit a fire under the asses of whom ever it was leaked to.

And at that point you had a cascade of wars, albeit a complicated series of events starting w/ whomever wouldve been tangental to the egyptian priests, wherein it goes from coveting knowledge, to then a plethora of knowledge now public...

to then, the common folk having said knowledge (areas outside of Egypt), the kings and pharaohs and such, questioning. Concerned to say the least. Like its possible we were never suppose to know about whatever it was the Angel Azezel taught Enoch (Enochs story also parallels the convo between Poimandres and Hermes Trismegistus!)

But my point is like, these stories gave us insights into somethin that ultimately changed our trajectory, and the egyptian priests were guarding it, along w/ what knowledge they used in the original egyptian language. The later egyptian hieroglyphs start to, well, diverge slightly, but they do still have the same sortve *stream of consciousness elements. Like, many of us read the egyptian language as a form of this ancient *stream of consciousness~more than anything else (more than its literal connotations), as you consider how many magical and astrological elements are in Egyptian, Zoroastrian, etc., like you jus have too many things that point to this like, *mythical language of the priests -typeve things.

*p.s. the quality of the hieroglyphs, and how it goes from these granite emblems of precision to like, more of like a prototypical, Old Norse style carving to me speaks to whats going on greatly!*

*p.s.s. when it comes to pyramids, i just reiterate that~the "what" & "how" wouldve been a guarded secret for a good while (unless everyone in egypt was involved 🤔). I only hope to point to what evidence is actually on site, and ways it couldve been used!*

*p.s.s.s. sorry i threw out such long messages, alas itll be a miracle if you get to all three of 'em, lol.*

Edited Sunday at 06:02 PM by kavaris

[kavaris]

What im lookin4 now, is the connection between three things in Ancient Egypt:

1) Book of the Dead -type've underworld/death journey ideas

2) Agriculture and this like, knowledge of Alchemy -&ideas

3) Language/symbolism or hieroglyphic/pictographic thing -ideas

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&Like. What / if any, the connection is, as.. its not just death, but often agricultural stuff in the glyphs.. Or its not just agriculture, but death... Or its the language. Like what is it and whys it alternating?

P.s. Oh, isnt there a thing like, eating the flesh of Osiris ~ and/or achieving immortality by sucking the breastes's  of a goddess or from some divine flesh or fluids? That is to say then that, like back then, you werent only eating food but you were eating the flesh. I mean, alteast, theres a lot of agriculture and spirituality, put together i feel. whatever, doesnt matter, the point is, someone was inspiring them early on~to depict this like, ritualistic underworld/death exp., as such, and we want to know about it. Like...

Let me see if i can remember now: Osiris (Enki effectively) teaches them how to farm properly, and Thoth (Tehuti, Nisaba or Hermes) teaches them how to write and record knowledge. Osiris doesnt just teach farming though, hes like, the underworld, or the world (they are eating Osiris, so hes not just the underworld, or maybe thats what theyare eating, the underworld...) ANywho, and the underworld is associated with the lion. Horus or the falcon/eagle represents the sky, the heavens, the world that lies above, or also its the Divine realm of some sort. Anubis is responsible for mummification, embalming and *guiding souls to the underworld.

Theres also a *Griffin or a Sphinx type've creature which is assoc. *guarding one of the doors (i believe it is the door to our own realm?). Like the only characters i want to include in my research are Ra, Set, Horus, Thoth, Osiris, Amun-Ra and Anubis.. And the Lion, griffin things... i know theres alot of animals/chars., but i only really can understand like, two at a time (and whatever this word "lon" is suppose to mean, is intriguing... Though i didnt remind myself what hieroglyph it corresponded w/, so we'll have to find that out later)

Edited Sunday at 10:34 PM by kavaris