Thoughts, ideas, experiences, beliefs

[James123]

Are not need to be suppressed. 

Just be aware of them, do not cling. Watch a movie, till they are with themselves already.

Body and mind is it's own. 

You are always what You are.

Reality is illusion or not, no self or self, duality or non duality etc... these are all identification clinging to thoughts and beliefs.

When body and mind is it's own, only pointers takes place not naming, labeling or explaining. 

 

[Someone here]

No problem but you are also taking sides by not taking sides . Life will force you to engage in thought if you want to mix with society..you wanna be a rishi then go find a cave or start a guru business. It's a high consciousness life purpose. 

[James123]

3 hours ago, Someone here said:

No problem but you are also taking sides by not taking sides . Life will force you to engage in thought if you want to mix with society..you wanna be a rishi then go find a cave or start a guru business. It's a high consciousness life purpose. 

Life is has to do with body, not You.

İt is perfectly capable to do.

[Someone here]

1 hour ago, James123 said:

Life is has to do with body, not You.

İt is perfectly capable to do.

Yes in a sense I am not the body or mind ..anyone can notice the gap between the body-mind and their own existence as a background awareness that contains these two .just like a screen and a movie .body and mind and life are movie..the screen is pure awareness . But notice that does NOT mean the movie doesn't exist .when your body wakes up in the morning..does it ask you permission to wake up ? No it just awakens just like that .when your body is hungry ..sleepy ..wants to go to the bathroom etc ..does it ask you permission?  No it just does what it does .the body is superimposed on awareness. So what appears to be the concern of you is actually a concern of the body. But since the body is superimposed on awareness there is actually not that much difference between the body and awareness. Remember in the end you can't really say I'm awareness not the body. Of course you are the body. What the hell else would the body be lol  ?

[James123]

6 hours ago, Someone here said:

Yes in a sense I am not the body or mind ..anyone can notice the gap between the body-mind and their own existence as a background awareness that contains these two .just like a screen and a movie .body and mind and life are movie..the screen is pure awareness . But notice that does NOT mean the movie doesn't exist .when your body wakes up in the morning..does it ask you permission to wake up ? No it just awakens just like that .when your body is hungry ..sleepy ..wants to go to the bathroom etc ..does it ask you permission?  No it just does what it does .the body is superimposed on awareness. So what appears to be the concern of you is actually a concern of the body. But since the body is superimposed on awareness there is actually not that much difference between the body and awareness. Remember in the end you can't really say I'm awareness not the body. Of course you are the body. What the hell else would the body be lol  ?

Awareness is always same. 

Body changes.

[LEarn]

I like this, it is very true that we are separate from our experiences, but entangled in them. I was once asked by someone "how do I follow my feelings?" and I told her to just let them exist, trying to follow them or affect them would result in her wanting to tear her hair out. She didn't listen and she made a decision that she now regrets.

What I have found is that in the throes of distraction, one can easily forget that they are not what they are consuming. The danger is, the clinging happens when the experience/belief/idea/thought is so attractive to a person that they replace their concept of self with the thing itself, setting their course for the acquisition of that thing at any cost. Might be an extreme, but it happens.

Your approach is solid, but it will only result in more things coming your way as the continuum (everything) discovers you are capable of more and so will send more things your way. I have found that these things are usually not to my liking - for me it's like Sisyphus, trying to help those who don't want the help. Maybe your experience will be different. I doubt it. Because once you awaken to wanting your own life, tolerating those who have their own life and still can't do anything with it will affect you greatly. Perhaps you'll be able to negate your self for them. I couldn't and won't.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by LEarn

[James123]

3 hours ago, LEarn said:

Your approach is solid, but it will only result in more things coming your way as the continuum (everything) discovers you are capable of more and so will send more things your way. I have found that these things are usually not to my liking - for me it's like Sisyphus, trying to help those who don't want the help. Maybe your experience will be different. I doubt it. Because once you awaken to wanting your own life, tolerating those who have their own life and still can't do anything with it will affect you greatly. Perhaps you'll be able to negate your self for them. I couldn't and won't.

 

These are all thoughts. Belongs to mind. Arises and falls.

[LEarn]

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

These are all thoughts. Belongs to mind. Arises and falls.

Right - but how long until you want to just be, away from the tension/feelings/awareness/reconciling that occurs as a result of the rising and falling of the thoughts in your brain

It’s the natural path - I will deal with something until it becomes unreasonable

And it will become unreasonable eventually, that’s why people turn to external substances/people for help

[James123]

11 minutes ago, LEarn said:

Right - but how long until you want to just be, away from the tension/feelings/awareness/reconciling that occurs as a result of the rising and falling of the thoughts in your brain

It’s the natural path - I will deal with something until it becomes unreasonable

And it will become unreasonable eventually, that’s why people turn to external substances/people for help

Body is already love and help.

Me is freedom.