Hardkill

A video on how existential the political crisis in our country is

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1 hour ago, Breathe said:

There are too many generalizations in your post and you exaggerate too much so I'm not sure how to engage in a serious way. You talk about liberals and conservatives as if both groups all think the same. Some might say that there are different types of socialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Varieties

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"his Dictionary of Socialism (1924), Angelo S. Rappoport analysed forty definitions of socialism to conclude that common elements of socialism include general criticism of the social effects of private ownership and control of capital—as being the cause of poverty, low wages, unemployment, economic and social inequality and a lack of economic security; a general view that the solution to these problems is a form of collective control over the means of production, distribution and exchange (the degree and means of control vary among socialist movements);"

 

 

 

If nothing has a definition, then your words literally mean nothing.

"eVEryThinG gOod iS SoCialIsm. bAd, cApiTaLisM!"

source- our fWeeLingS

 

 

 

 

"Egalitarianism (from French égal 'equal'; also equalitarianism) is a school of thought within political philosophy that builds on the concept of social equality, prioritizing it for all people.[1] Egalitarian doctrines are generally characterized by the idea that all humans are equal in fundamental worth or moral status.[2] As such, all people should be accorded equal rights and treatment under the law.[3][4] Egalitarian doctrines have been important in many modern political philosophies and social movements, including the Enlightenment, classical liberalism, libertarianism, feminism, civil rights, and international human rights.[5] Egalitarianism is a major principle of both classical liberalism with its equality of rights, and redistributive left-wing politics with its stress on equality of outcome.[6"

 

 

"Progressivism is a left-leaning political philosophy and reform movement that seeks to advance the human condition through social reform.[1] Adherents hold that progressivism has universal application and endeavor to spread this idea to human societies everywhere. Progressivism arose during the Age of Enlightenment out of the belief that civility in Europe was improving due to the application of new empirical knowledge.[2]"

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Watch Deon Sanders' cousin Bernie, juke and pivot over the years on "Socialism"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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On 2/5/2026 at 8:20 PM, Elliott said:

 

Enlighten me, share your thoughts. Sincerely.

I never liked Biden out of the Democrat field, I did like Harris though. Don't like Newsom, but any of these will destroy republicans long-term. You just don't want someone corrupt or dumb, like AOC or Bernie, out-dumbing republicans. Nothing Biden did aside from running in 24' "led to disaster", nothing policy wise, you're just butt-hurt.

We screwed up in 2016(I opposed Hilary in the primary too, don't like hilary), Hilary was shoed in like Biden 2024. We need more participation in the primaries. Still, the structural problem is the socialist rhetoric, those were all acute problems.

>I did like Harris

and she lost badly, so clearly your views on what works are worthless. She’s also fundamentally no different than Biden, so it’s obvious you’re just going off of vibes.

>corrupt or dump, like AOC or Bernie

They’ve called out reality of what will happen far more than Hillary, Biden, or Kamala.

Also neither are even remotely as corrupt as Hillary, Biden, or Kamala. Biden essentially worked for credit card companies when was in congress.

>nothing Biden did

him running again was the disaster, as well as failing to forward a lot of his agenda  

The democrats have not once ever ran on “socialist rhetoric” and lost from it, this is entirely a fiction of your imagination.

I don’t care if you don’t like Hillary. Hillary, Biden, and Kamala were your ”non socialist” democrat champions and were all disasters. Stop blaming socialists for your sides failures. 

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7 hours ago, Elliott said:

"eVEryThinG gOod iS SoCialIsm. bAd, cApiTaLisM!"

source- our fWeeLingS

I don't know anyone that thinks that way. Maybe stay off of twitter

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37 minutes ago, Breathe said:

I don't know anyone that thinks that way. Maybe stay off of twitter

Never been on Twitter, I was referring to this forum.

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1 hour ago, Raze said:

 

The democrats have not once ever ran on “socialist rhetoric” and lost from it, this is entirely a fiction of your imagination.

I never suggested that they did, I was referring to rhetoric from people like you and AOC. You characteristically, take no responsibility for your actions.

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6 minutes ago, Elliott said:

I never suggested that they did, I was referring to rhetoric from people like you and AOC.

 

On 2/3/2026 at 2:54 PM, Elliott said:

The only reason people vote for republicans, is that they hate socialism. That's it, you two are the problem.

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3 minutes ago, Raze said:

 

Republicans have the internet, Raze. You think they don't know who AOC is? It's their 3rd favorite acronym, and 4th favorite meme.

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33 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Republicans have the internet, Raze. You think they don't know who AOC is? It's their 3rd favorite acronym, and 4th favorite meme.

Stop being obtuse.

AOC didn’t run for president and lose. Those would be your precious non-socialists.

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50 minutes ago, Raze said:

Stop being obtuse.

AOC didn’t run for president and lose. Those would be your precious non-socialists.

AOC is about half of what conservatives talk about in conversation on Democrats. People tend to look at the worst example of something. She's the Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Bobert equivalent for how we view the conservative positions. Just as YOU say, she's very vocal and gets out there.

I guarantee not one republican voter could tell you kamalas position on anything. People vote for partys. Liberals are decentralized, you're treating Democrats like we're a cult following a single leader like Republicans and Socialists do, we're different.

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/state/4450463/democrats-upset-trump-districts-louisiana-special-election/

Democrats continue upset streak in Louisiana special election

6 hours ago — Chasity Verret Martinez's win represents a 37-point shift to the left after Trump won the Louisiana House 60 District by 13 points in 2024

 

 

Here's our media disadvantage for you

I do admit mainstream news is corrupted against us, but it's not a silver bullet. I think you guys are terminally online.

 

Consider

2020

Texas was 52% trump 46% Biden, 3% of the electorate turning blue ties TEXAS

Florida was 51 and 48, a 1.5% of voters changing to blue ties it

If either of these states go blue, republucans have zero chance. Now, look at north carolina, wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Arizona, all Dem governors, trump barely won. Georgia is in swing territory, .....

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7 minutes ago, Elliott said:

 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/state/4450463/democrats-upset-trump-districts-louisiana-special-election/

Democrats continue upset streak in Louisiana special election

6 hours ago — Chasity Verret Martinez's win represents a 37-point shift to the left after Trump won the Louisiana House 60 District by 13 points in 2024

 

 

Here's our media disadvantage for you

I do admit mainstream news is corrupted against us, but it's not a silver bullet. I think you guys are terminally online.

That seat is a safe democrat seat democrats win each time

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

AOC is about half of what conservatives talk about in conversation on Democrats. People tend to look at the worst example of something. She's the Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Bobert equivalent for how we view the conservative positions. Just as YOU say, she's very vocal and gets out there.

I guarantee not one republican voter could tell you kamalas position on anything. People vote for partys. Liberals are decentralized, you're treating Democrats like we're a cult following a single leader like Republicans and Socialists do, we're different.

No, in reality the establishment democrat supporters are the most cult like of all three groups.

You put forward Biden when he was literally barely functioning, they even cancelled the primary essentially and kept pushing the narrative he was fine until it was too late. It wasn’t establishment democrats who first sounded the alarm, it was progressives, and republicans who were just mocking the stupidity of this move.

If people vote for party, they aren’t going to vote based on AOC when she doesn’t represent the party. Hillary and Kamala were the representatives and they lost. The dislike of them would have a far greater impact than anyones dislike of AOC.

and once again, you try to bring up current recent wins as though that proves your point when as I already told you by your own logic it does the opposire.

AOC is still in the party, infact even more far left people like Mamdani are in the party. You somehow blame AOC for democrats losing because she’s in the party, but when she’s in the party and they win that’s proof your side separate from AOC in the party is right. That is bad faith contradictory reasoning I already pointed out to you .

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34 minutes ago, Raze said:

That seat is a safe democrat seat democrats win each time

No, in reality the establishment democrat supporters are the most cult like of all three groups.

You put forward Biden when he was literally barely functioning, they even cancelled the primary essentially and kept pushing the narrative he was fine until it was too late. It wasn’t establishment democrats who first sounded the alarm, it was progressives, and republicans who were just mocking the stupidity of this move.

If people vote for party, they aren’t going to vote based on AOC when she doesn’t represent the party. Hillary and Kamala were the representatives and they lost. The dislike of them would have a far greater impact than anyones dislike of AOC.

and once again, you try to bring up current recent wins as though that proves your point when as I already told you by your own logic it does the opposire.

Ah, yes, your word is God!

Louisiana the Democratic stronghold! LOL Then what strongholds are you expecting democrats to lose(what this thread is about)?

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AOC is still in the party, infact even more far left people like Mamdani are in the party. You somehow blame AOC for democrats losing because she’s in the party, but when she’s in the party and they win that’s proof your side separate from AOC in the party is right. That is bad faith contradictory reasoning I already pointed out to you .

No. We would do even BETTER with her learning basic definitions!

 

You're actually the one trying to use your argument both ways. I'm saying you're holding us back. I'm not saying we can't win with AOC stupidity, YOU are the one saying we can't continue with the sane approach. I'm saying we're fine, but you're the ones holding us back from doing even better.

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No, in reality the establishment democrat supporters are the most cult like of all three groups.

I remember all the Biden merch!

Ol' Berntards. LOLz, saying we're a cult for Biden! Who was the 2024 Democrat again, big Raze?

 

Socialist amnesia, or something.

This conversa..... is obviously going no where. I didn't mean it to just sling insults. Toodles 🍻 I'm out.

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