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I asked gemini why we can not awaken

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13 hours ago, Dodo said:

You are that which sees, not what you see

That which sees has never been seen, or known.

The ‘you’s’ reality, exists only within the seen identified images of the imageless.


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14 hours ago, Dodo said:

You are that which sees, not what you see. Neti-neti.

Also, there is ai slop

Rupert Spira once said, you are not the seer or the seen, but the "seeing" itself. 


I am but a reflection... a mirror... of you... of me... in a cosmic dance ~ of a unified mystery...

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4 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

This is still reinforcing more of the conceptual dream.

That which appears to be limited,  was,is,  never limited. 
 

That which appears to awaken, never awoke.

There is not dream, just different configuration of the perception of the reality. The thing is much more simpler and direct than advaita vision. 

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2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

There is not dream, just different configuration of the perception of the reality. The thing is much more simpler and direct than advaita vision. 

Likened to a dream.

Likened.


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2 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

Likened to a dream.

Likened.

I don't get what do you mean 

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30 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

I don't get what do you mean 

I mean perception, both yours, and our perception is both yours, and our own personal subjective truths.. which are ultimately self-generated, constructed, transitory simulated dreams…

To know, or realise you’ve been dreaming requires an awareness of dreaming, which is an awareness of images constructed solely of that which is ultimately imageless.
 

This is only how I perceive reality here,  as my personal perception, which of course is just my particular dreamscape experienced here, and it’s just a share, so it doesn’t necessarily mean everyone else is experiencing the exact same perception of reality that I do.

 


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3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

which are ultimately self-generated, constructed, transitory simulated dreams…

That's a judgment in which you assign reality a category: dream or constructed and transitory simulation. This is opposed to another category: real, not transitory, whatever. By doing so, you're establishing an absolute limit on reality.

3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

To know, or realise you’ve been dreaming requires an awareness of dreaming, which is an awareness of images constructed solely of that which is ultimately imageless.

Here you structure reality between an actor, the dreamer, an action, dreaming, and a result, the dream. Reality is divided into compartments due to a realization you've had that has revealed to you that reality has this structure; therefore, you now create this structured map. 

3 hours ago, Mellowmarsh said:

This is only how I perceive reality here,  as my personal perception, which of course is just my particular dreamscape experienced here, and it’s just a share, so it doesn’t necessarily mean everyone else is experiencing the exact same perception of reality that I do.

It's a conceptual framework you've built by internalizing teachings and through personal realizations. The point is that awakening, enlightenment, whatever you want to call it, is precisely the dissolution of all limits and all conceptual frameworks. It's an action, not a realization. Opening yourself to the totality, being one with the absolute. You can't define the absolute because if you do, it becomes relative. 

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10 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

It's a conceptual framework you've built by internalizing teachings and through personal realizations. The point is that awakening, enlightenment, whatever you want to call it, is precisely the dissolution of all limits and all conceptual frameworks. It's an action, not a realization. Opening yourself to the totality, being one with the absolute. You can't define the absolute because if you do, it becomes relative. 

I’d argue differently, in that the idea of awakening, enlightenment etc.. still belongs to the conceptual dream, born of thought. It’s still a form of seeking, whereby there’s a demand to be dissolved of limited impermanence and to get to state that is beyond the conceptual dream of human man-made linguistics,  while simultaneously self-perpetuating a strong binding permanent unlimited foothold within the sense of self or I to be one with the absolute.

An I or sense of self that believes it can open itself to the totality to be one with the absolute,  actually implies twoness, not one.
 

To be with, implies two.

The point is, dreamt characters cannot awaken. So it’s meaningless to believe awakening is an actual action. 

Awakening is just another myth, belonging to the conceptual dream. And there’s nothing but the dream. The dream is all there is, was, and ever will be,infinitely for eternity. 

 

 

 


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