Veganism is an extremely pressing concern.

[Elliott]

4 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

If Mario's best friend wants to put a bullet in my head for whatever reason there's nothing I can do, but he might end up in prison.

Also he's taking my life; because I was brought into the world and my existence was fostered to contribute to collective subjetcs (which doesn't include cannibalis lol).
The sine qua non condition for the existence of a farm pig is that it will in fine be killed to be eaten.

A better question would be "If I were in a cannibal tribe, would I accept living to be killed, say, at 30 years old, to be eaten, if my life is considered decent?"; and my answer would be ofc yes. 

That's just girly propaganda, there's nothing truly wrong with this

 

 

 

 

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[Schizophonia]

16 minutes ago, Elliott said:

That's just girly propaganda, there's nothing truly wrong with this

 

 

It's normal to want to kill enemies in a war.

Now you don't necessarily want there to be a war; because well you don't necessarily want to kill other human beings, for people you love to be killed, or for yourself to be killed.

We come back to my book on Lenin ; what is the nature of the process driving large-scale conflicts, brings belligerent ideologies to power; and this nature is economical

You might tell me again that the USSR also had to be belligerent for geopolitical reasons.

But it was Germany that put these lunatic extermination in power, and these people were able to seize power thanks to the support of big German business; because Nazism was more favorable to their interests than growing socialists.

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[Elliott]

36 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

It's normal to want to kill enemies in a war.

Yes, just 1) declare war and 2) make it rapid, then it's fine to kill anyone.

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Now you don't necessarily want there to be a war; because well you don't necessarily want to kill other human beings, for people you love to be killed, or for yourself to be killed.

We come back to my book on Lenin ; what is the nature of the process driving large-scale conflicts, brings belligerent ideologies to power; and this nature is economical

You might tell me again that the USSR also had to be belligerent for geopolitical reasons.

It's ego, no different than this

 

 

 

You know it's wrong

 

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But it was Germany that put these lunatic extermination in power, and these people were able to seize power thanks to the support of big German business; because Nazism was more favorable to their interests than growing socialists.

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I don't understand, I thought we agreed Nazis did nothing "wrong"? They declared war, there's no moral qualm about it, they were good people just doing what they're here to do. Get that girly propaganda out of here, there's nothing wrong with Nazi genocide. I mean, that's what nazis are for!

 

 

the epitome of natural beauty!!

 

 

 

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[Schizophonia]

39 minutes ago, Elliott said:

Yes, just 1) declare war and 2) make it rapid, then it's fine to kill anyone.

It's fine for the one for whom it's in their interest.

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It's ego, no different than this

 

Once again, you're basing your opinion on random videos; that makes you extremely manipulable.

Already answered

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I don't understand, I thought we agreed Nazis did nothing "wrong"? They declared war, there's no moral qualm about it, they were good people just doing what they're here to do. Get that girly propaganda out of here, there's nothing wrong with Nazi genocide. I mean, that's what nazis are for!

the epitome of natural beauty!!

Yes but the Nazis' interests are probably not yours for many reasons; you're probably not in favor of killing Jews, killing minorities in general, in capitalism...

Actually the Nazis did what vegans do today; they used various media outlets to portray Jews as evil simply because a particular Jew was in a particular institution.

My message is that instead of resorting to aggression and dogmatism because you've seen a few videos among all the events that occur daily on a planet of 8 billion inhabitants, you should calm down a bit and try to be more rational.

You can very well say, "I wish farm animals had a certain level of comfort; it pisses me off that farming conditions are so poor, and I'd rather not eat meat, or even agree to eat less of it rather than meat raised in poor conditions; there are also environmental and hygiene arguments; blablabla"; saying that is highly rational.

My thesis is that veganism, that is when you start to embrace the idea that life isn't worth living in a situation of interdependence with humans (many vegans for example if not most are against pets), becomes delusional and even masks bourgeois morality; that is it stems from mental structures that overshadow the importance of material conditions.

 

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[Elliott]

57 minutes ago, Schizophonia said:

delusional and even masks bourgeois morality; that is it stems from mental structures that overshadow the importance of material conditions.

You haven't actually said any argument, you've just stated that it's fine, and dismissed videos of the meat industry because.... they're videos!?!????? That's.....your argument

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This is not killing the tree

 

This wheat is dead(dry, wheat dies annually)

 

 

 

This is not moral

 

This is moral because they were marxists

 

That's your argument you're praising. Nazi haters are just bourgeois superiorists! The French aren't actually human, some say they taste delicious too! 🤤 . We need to end this girly bourgeois attitude against eating French monkeys, they're born to be eaten. French fries, no, more like fried frenchies!

 

New cookbook just dropped

Check out the Auschwitz oven technique!!! 🤤 Page 99

 

Heil Hitler!!! ✋️

 

 

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[Schizophonia]

1 hour ago, Elliott said:

You haven't actually said any argument, you've just stated that it's fine, and dismissed videos of the meat industry because.... they're videos!?!????? That's.....your argument

I've been trying to explain this for a while now, but you don't understand anything and you're being rude, and/or trolling.
You're annoying. 

[Elliott]

2 hours ago, Schizophonia said:

I've been trying to explain this for a while now,

No one is stopping you. You've put no thought into this you're just stating your feelings as fact "beating and dragging animals is okay, since it's only on video(?!?!???)"

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but you don't understand anything and you're being rude, and/or trolling.
You're annoying. 

That's just your bourgeois superiocity speaking. This is why French people are okay to eat.

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