Entire life and spirituality

[James123]

 

 

[Princess Arabia]

Who is he talking to?

Filled with contradictions. The body dies, he says, yet nothing dies, he also says.

Perceiver and observer is separation of which there is none.

Who is supposed to grasp those words and live by those words if who I am is beyond the beyond. 

If i am whatever he said I am, I can't talk, I can't, listen, perceive or understand nor can I grasp or get anything. So, whoever I am, doesn't know anything if I am beyond everything. Knowing requires a position in space and time. 

 Sounds good to the 'lost soul/energy' trying to find itself, which it never will because it's everything.

Edited 16 hours ago by Princess Arabia

[James123]

14 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Who is he talking to?

Filled with contradictions. The body dies, he says, yet nothing dies, he also says.

Perceiver and observer is separation of which there is none.

Who is supposed to grasp those words and live by those words if who I am is beyond the beyond. 

If i am whatever he said I am, I can't talk, I can't, listen, perceive or understand nor can I grasp or get anything. So, whoever I am, doesn't know anything if I am beyond everything. Knowing requires a position in space and time. 

 Sounds good to the 'lost soul/energy' trying to find itself, which it never will because it's everything.

You should be an English teacher. Specially in grammar and meaning of words.

[Ramasta9]

Nahmastay Motherfuckers !

[Princess Arabia]

45 minutes ago, James123 said:

You should be an English teacher. Specially in grammar and meaning of words.

Maybe give some answers or show how my reasonings are not valid or give some explanations to what I was negating instead of telling me I should be an English Teacher.

When I speak as I speak, it's because I've thought for myself and came up with what I see to be or not be the case. Of course, I can be wrong and i'm open-minded enough to listen to what others have to say about things to see if they fit into what I've constructed after I've deconstructed. It's all constructs and nothing is meld in stone. 

I refuse to listen to the herd and just follow blindly what some dead spiritual guru have to say about life and reality, if all is one and there's no separation, how can there be an observer, is a start for one. Convince me otherwise. Plenty where that came from. I see spirituality being used as a means to end suffering and that's where my skepticisms arose from. People are looking for a way out, what sounds good, not for what actually is. 

You just post a video and expect it to be revered because it's by some respected past guru. Well, I'm challenging it. Who am I. He says I'm the witness. I'm not the body or mind or what I can perceive. Where is the space that doesn't actually exist for me to step aside from to perceive what it is I'm not and why do we even need some other human being to tell us who we are in the first place. Your response only showed more group-think and how you're following blindly what you've been told.

[Mellowmarsh]

26 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Nahmastay Motherfuckers !

There's nowhere to stay because there's nowhere to go. 

 

Your only home is homelessness. Right here, and never not here.

[Mellowmarsh]

11 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

When I speak as I speak, it's because I've thought for myself

You have a self?

If that's what's been thought up here, then that's just the self talking to itself. 

[Ramasta9]

10 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

There's nowhere to stay because there's nowhere to go. 

 

Your only home is homelessness. Right here, and never not here.

I prefer Homefullness  You'll get here one day.

[Princess Arabia]

7 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

You have a self?

If that's what's been thought up here, then that's just the self talking to itself. 

Whatever you say. Non-duality cannot be applied and having no self doesn't mean there's someone there to act and respond to life as if there's no self. Words just speak themselves.

[James123]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Whatever you say. Non-duality cannot be applied and having no self doesn't mean there's someone there to act and respond to life as if there's no self. Words just speak themselves.

Life belongs to body, not you. Body acts not you. Mouth speaks, heart beats not you.

15 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Filled with contradictions. The body dies, he says, yet nothing dies, he also says.

Body dies, yet you are not as object or subject etc... therefore he says nothing dies.

15 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Perceiver and observer is separation of which there is none.

No. Perceiver or observer is the thing that beyond all moves, yet at the end he says you are beyond of beyond.

15 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Who is supposed to grasp those words and live by those words if who I am is beyond the beyond. 

His conversation is about that to drop all those words.

16 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

If i am whatever he said I am, I can't talk, I can't, listen, perceive or understand nor can I grasp or get anything. So, whoever I am, doesn't know anything if I am beyond everything. Knowing requires a position in space and time. 

Knowledge belongs to body and mind, not you.

16 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

Sounds good to the 'lost soul/energy' trying to find itself, which it never will because it's everything.

Your belief.

Instead of judging first try to understand and after judge. 

Do that till you drop all understanding and judgements.

[Mellowmarsh]

9 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

I prefer Homefullness  You'll get here one day.

Preference is mind stuff, it's artificial truth, not actual truth.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, James123 said:

Instead of judging first try to understand and after judge. 

There's a difference between not agreeing and judging. Anyway, I've done a whole 360 and got to the point to where I'm at. It's not like I'm new to this stuff and haven't seen it through. 

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

Knowledge belongs to body and mind, not you.

Nothing owns knowledge. 

[Mellowmarsh]

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Whatever you say. Non-duality cannot be applied and having no self doesn't mean there's someone there to act and respond to life as if there's no self. Words just speak themselves.

There's no such thing as Nonduality, because Nonduality is not a thing.

[Princess Arabia]

4 minutes ago, James123 said:

His conversation is about that to drop all those words.

Who is to drop all those words.

 

5 minutes ago, James123 said:

Perceiver or observer is the thing that beyond all moves, yet at the end he says you are beyond of beyond.

"All moves". Move to where from where in timeless, boundless energy. All is just moving within itself going nowhere and that's just seemingly as nothing is actually moving. 

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

There's no such thing as Nonduality, because Nonduality is not a thing.

Yippee...great, you've got an A for that.

[James123]

1 minute ago, Princess Arabia said:

Who is to drop all those words.

The one who judge the video.

2 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Who is to drop all those words.

 

"All moves". Move to where from where in timeless, boundless energy. All is just moving within itself going nowhere and that's just seemingly as nothing is actually moving. 

Put the hand on fire and see. Is nothing moves or not?

What he says, you do not move. Yet body and life is together. 

[Mellowmarsh]

Just now, Princess Arabia said:

Yippee...great, you've got an A for that.

 Give it to yourself, the self you thought up.

[Mellowmarsh]

9 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

Nothing owns knowledge. 

There's nothing known about nothing, so nothing can't author knowledge.

[Princess Arabia]

3 minutes ago, James123 said:

Put the hand on fire and see. Is nothing moves or not?

Yes, it will appear to get burnt, feels hurtful, burns and whatever else but it's all an appearance just like everything else.