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Whole planet is infinity happy except one normal person, it has 3 episode so far on apple tv....check it out....

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Yay! Deals with the themes of conformity, the human condition… and also, what the heck is going on?

Isn't it more like an incredibly popular or universal cult-virus rather than a "Turquoise" society? :D

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Watching this series on the side so far. I want to write it to understand actualized org! Feel free to join the questions.

1. ‘the One’

Ep 4 was very important in showing that experience triumphs foreseeing. The show keeps circling this: how asymmetrical the relationship is between Carol and ‘the One’.
‘The One’ says they have already experienced Carol’s nature and transcended it; Carol thinks they’re oblivious, completely unable to say the same for her. The tension is whether this asymmetry will be hurtful or liberating—and this ties deeply into Carol’s trauma (I’ll get to this later).
But, yeah, the episode underlines one thing: experience is what makes our nature thrive, and losing it feels like losing agency.

For ‘the One’, though, I still don’t understand why they’re so pressed on their own development, this place is my favorite to find more kernel of truth related to Actualized.org. It’s like they’ve transcended our idea of evolution, and I hope this series eventually ties that to the interstellar code that was transmitted.
But the real center of gravity is that they don’t want to remove something in Carol—maybe so she can be “happy,” or maybe because it’s a biological mechanism that was destined to unfold. Basically the old free will vs determinism.

Ha! Question for thought:
Is an individual created by our perspectives (as we survive), or by our interpretations (our experiences)?
Feels like higher perspectives play a part in shaping the interpretations we’re capable of.

Ep 4 ends on the question of whether we should “cure.”
This tension cure vs consequence. I have literary hobbies and I could see its resonance with Jonathan Swift’s satirical take on “development,” “technology,” and “government.”
‘The One’ is definitely outside our model of a government. They’ve centralized their system and resources and can reallocate everything in a matter of seconds—faster than any political or technological structure we have now.
So it’s weird to frame them as “conforming” to any rule—they’re more like an alien (metaphorically) technology and infrastructure, very far from our ideas of state.

2. Carol.

Carol’s experience in Freedom Camp explains why Ep 4 keeps echoing the theme of experience. Even though ‘the One’ shuns psychology as irrelevant to them, they still embody things. The episode literally shows their system dealing with physical bodies—like the hospital scene where addiction still exists.
So addiction is not “solved” by ‘the One’. Carol though indirectly misses that. Her plan to drug Raban was basically to test whether the system transmits through the body or whether they’re just mindless masks.

But in doing that, she basically commits a crime—dosing a person without understanding what might happen. It mirrors Gulliver in Book II: meeting the giants with only small scraps of power left, and resorting to ambition as if it’s still a meaningful weapon. With that tension on cure and consequence again.

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English is my second language so I can't be precise in yellow language art/precision skills unfortunately, but maker of series is creator of breaking bad, best show ever by all standards, and yes they are alien/one but have all the turquoise quality so far that they would give her (main character) atomic bomb if she wish it, (episode 3 "granade"), so it's kind of funny watching dynamics of normal woman with ego and human emotions against the "hive mind", second tier,  I'm a movie buff and I know it will get dark soon as episodes progress but the ideas in first 3 episodes are some genius tv.....

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19 hours ago, blackchair said:

English is my second language so I can't be precise in yellow language art/precision skills unfortunately, but maker of series is creator of breaking bad, best show ever by all standards, and yes they are alien/one but have all the turquoise quality so far that they would give her (main character) atomic bomb if she wish it, (episode 3 "granade"), so it's kind of funny watching dynamics of normal woman with ego and human emotions against the "hive mind", second tier,  I'm a movie buff and I know it will get dark soon as episodes progress but the ideas in first 3 episodes are some genius tv.....

"Please, Carol."

Looks promising, for sure. First chapters have delivered, in my opinion.

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Main actress won Golden globe for this. I was right, it went dark unfortunately but ending of season 1 is epic. 

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@UnbornTaovalid, I think I was doing just for putting it out there. No human touch haha. Yet I honestly cannot remember whether I did AI. In retrospect, pretty cringey reading it again after 1-3 months.

1.
So an update for the show. It didn't touch the best way possible for me, but it was an honest vision, and I respect that. What's funny is that 'the One''s morality just gets represented to being some like qualities of turquoise but never show support about Carol's claim (why Carol is a biological necessity to join 'The One'? Why power have to be freedom (in the point of view of absolute)? Why the heck mainstream model of evolution thrown out the gate and explained it as totally peaceful, isn't the worst qualities bring improvement as well?) by just answer like, say, Eichmann to a Jew (it's in my nature, as they say it) why it was necessary to have this step. As appose to Eichmann, this time it's very potent on the ideas of Actualized.org, it meant surrender unto what it seems like their conscience. Their solution to the balance of chaos is to make symmetry, which I'll talk in this reflection on it.

This show is creatively bold, but Carol's character growth was emotionally predictable. But to say Carol's not a novel character is an understatement, especially I really enjoyed the chemistry played on the screen on what is suffering (Carol) and what is the cessation ('the One'). This show has been criticize mostly in its breadth, but I think it's necessary not just because Carol isn't a mainstream quality of characterization. I realized. It is like both aisles treat a war, a film played in hard versus soft power. Humans represent reality to be responsive, 'The One' represent reality to be descriptive. The war playing in the show was different. It felt like I was watching what it was like in an ancient theater Greece of tragedy, more subtle dialogue in moments. What's different unfortunately, this one, it didn't left cost remarks. If the show would've ended with Carol's individuality dead (which I am glad it didn't), as accepting, it would be costless kenosis. A costless death as the show would've show artistically. 

Show ended with Carol's realization on manipulation. And it was interesting that it seems Carol's season 1 arc will probably best shown in the next season, because it ended on its middle process.

 

2.

In an inquiry note, and perhaps anyone can join and challenge the way I frame it. But why does symmetry have to be a turquoise quality? I used Eichmann earlier because it was interesting to what the show's theme is about: will vs. fate. Eichmann didn't have any will, he saw himself and Jew's dying was as fate. Of course I am simplifying, but this question racked my mind about Actualized.org for awhile. Especially like Ken Wilber types on development. What if the world evolves, teleologically, aren't more so on dissolution, but more on requisite variety (Leo: https://www.actualized.org/insights/requisite-variety-and-creative-laziness). It seemed so ironic, say one quote from Carol, but so true:

"We can’t choose. [Zosia] Yes, you can. If you can do square roots in your head, you can make choices.

After contemplating perspective is Absolute Truth then why go back into simpler asymmetries? Say the scene with Kusimayu's dissolution (indigenous tribe girl), after that scene I realized the answer to my previous question before--if interpretation (experience) are only the one's left, as Leo duly pointed out the worst parts are demonization, but if perspectives (as we survive, as to be incorruptible as possible) we have to face the fact that there is no philosophy left. I mean I think that's interesting, what if life are without philosophy? That's what happened with Kusimayu's family tribe, it was performative ritual of their culture in that scene, they did that to utilized their own manipulation to joining 'the One', it was as if the most incorruptable thing became the most costless being evolving possible. It meant bootstrapping, and not Kusimayu 'more per se'--ironic as 'the One' justification that they see all love.

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