Leo is leading us to insanity

[Someone here]

 I wrote this comment few minutes ago in anothr thread and i want to express something genuine . This is what i wrote :I've discovered this when I was 3 years old and was done with it  . It's perfectly clear to me that nobody ever understands a goddam thing and that this is going to be the case forever. 

Pretty scary stuff.  Try to distract yourself by eating some cookies or watching anime movies .just don't dig deep into this particular fact or you might literally lose your mind and trust me you don't want that. 

But for me it's total liberation.  Nobody in the entire world even knows what an atom of existence is.

Everyone are idiot fucks .including Leo and all the gurus and philosophers and scientists etc.

I can show a pencil and no idiot on this forum can tell me what the fuck is a pencil. 

Also I've read the entire thread about Leo's psychedelics retreat. All the comments. I read all of Leo's posts ..and I can assure you what actualized.org and Leo is heading towards is total and complete insanity . Not because Leo have said he will teach us how to deconstruct sanity because obviously you have to deconstruct everything that is false until only truth remains . And don't you dare to say there is a thin line between awakening and insanity. Leo has made it clear that there isn't.  I'm not going to attend the retreat but I just wanted to quickly tell you what awaits if actually wake up .

I'm not out or quitting actualized.org.  I'm totally in for losing my imaginary brains . But Leo is not more insane than me .

[theoneandnone]

I don’t mean this in a disrespectful way but I could see Leo and actualized.org being in a documentary one day. Not in a cult way but in a holy fuck these people are berserk way. But anyhow I respect the fuck out of Leo for trying to find the answers in the deepest crevices of the universe. But I agree it’s insanity!!!

[Mellowmarsh]

@Someone here The OP is nothing but your own personal dream.
You’re the only one dreaming the content of your own mind from the perspective of You there.

And so from the perspective of You there, there’s absolutely nothing else happening. 

…. Many authors appear, but there’s only ONE reading the writings no one writ. 

 

[TruthFreedom]

Yes! You are right!

Trust your instinct.

And also trust in Jesus Christ!

[Someone here]

38 minutes ago, theoneandnone said:

I don’t mean this in a disrespectful way but I could see Leo and actualized.org being in a documentary one day. Not in a cult way but in a holy fuck these people are berserk way. But anyhow I respect the fuck out of Leo for trying to find the answers in the deepest crevices of the universe. But I agree it’s insanity!!!

Leo trying to find answers in jupiter or Mars overlooking that truth is everything. 

And I know this sounds super fucking obvious to the point its boring ..but we take it for granted .

Sure ..explore psychedelics for a billion years ..its not like God has some time to lose . He's been around since forever. 

[Someone here]

30 minutes ago, Mellowmarsh said:

@Someone here The OP is nothing but your own personal dream.
You’re the only one dreaming the content of your own mind from the perspective of You there.

And so from the perspective of You there, there’s absolutely nothing else happening. 

…. Many authors appear, but there’s only ONE reading the writings no one writ. 

 

Solipsism is not true ,my love .

[Someone here]

11 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

Yes! You are right!

Trust your instinct.

And also trust in Jesus Christ!

Religion is a joke .I can't believe I was into Islam at some point. 

Show me Jesus and then..only then...I won't follow you 😂 

[Malkom]

What is the "atom of existence"?
In quantum mechanics, for example, a light particle has no frame of reference; one might say it exists outside of spacetime. That is, for it, everything exists as if instantaneously and instantly, as if you were light. The point is that any "corpuscle," be it an electron, a quark, or a Higgs boson, possesses both a wave and a particle, but the essence is that it is the former and not the latter, but something third, which does not exist in our macroscopic world. And no one has ever seen photons (quanta of light), electrons, or other particles. Mathematical apparatus is used because the language of mathematics is a level of abstraction and therefore best able to describe the world at the present moment. You could say that mathematics is a "sixth language," but no one REALLY knows what these languages are. It just works and is practical (the same principle: shut up and count). And since this isn't just a quantum field manifesting itself as a wave and a particle, it could be one atom, or one photon, or one electron for the ENTIRE WORLD. Or another interpretation is that these are different particles as manifestations of one. I remember a very beautiful description of this, but I can't describe it that way. Let's move on. When we studied the radiation of the Thompson atom, the "electron" itself corresponded to a "harmonic oscillator"—this interaction—that is, it itself, this principle itself, emerged; we were studying something completely different. That is, it's nothing more than a "vacuum oscillator," also known as a "vacuum fluctuation," because the vacuum is actually full, according to Schrödinger's uncertainty principle. That is, these aren't even "quantum fields" at this level...
What's the point? This proves that science isn't dogma. But the most interesting thing is that any true statements within the system are unprovable—that is, they are true, but unprovable. What this tells us is that Truth and Provability are not the same thing. It also proves that there is no limit to knowledge—Gödel's incompleteness theorem. Furthermore, the limitation and completeness of knowledge contradict the main philosophical principle (if we're talking about philosophy, not physics) of the limitlessness of knowledge. So what is Reality? Some will say mathematics, and they'll be largely correct. BUT. Mathematics is a "language," the language of our minds, which is part of reality. And if you take a few sets of words and try to create a truer definition of reality from them, which definition is truer? Reality is not mathematics. If it is mathematics, then it's the same kind of mathematics as arithmetic is to mathematics, in relation to, for example, geometry or set theory... But it's more true (and still not complete) that Reality is "Alchemy." Because one state transforms into another, it gives birth to another, and even your thoughts work in the same way... Reality is "magic" and "mystery." This is metaphorical, not a dogmatic statement.

So, drawing a final conclusion about whether the teachings are good or whether they lead to madness is simply your stage, your conclusion.

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[Yimpa]

14 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

And also trust in Jesus Christ!

If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him.

Don’t take it literally.

[Someone here]

@Malkom without using AI..what is the point you are trying to make in few sentences?

3 minutes ago, Malkom said:

What is the "atom of existence"?

Exactly. No one knows.

[Malkom]

5 minutes ago, Someone here said:

@Malkom without using AI..what is the point you are trying to make in few sentences?

Exactly. No one knows.

So, is our world illusory or real? In fact, it is REAL. Everything around us is real.

[TruthFreedom]

@Someone here

If your mind was open, Like Leo advocates, you would consider the possibility that religion is, in fact plausible.

Plus, what you don't realise is that Leo has formed his own religion here on this website, although he won't want to admit that.

Edited 12 hours ago by TruthFreedom

[Someone here]

2 minutes ago, Malkom said:

So, is our world illusory or real? In fact, it is REAL. Everything around us is real.

Cute question. It won't change anything. "Illusory" " real" "this" "That" "no" "Yes" "You're wrong" "You're right" Makes no fucking sense.

The thing is.. no amount of theorising will solve existence.  That's why Leo is shitting on everything and everyone and outright wants to lose his mind on a psychedelic cocktail. 

 

[Someone here]

7 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

@Someone here

If your mind was open, Like Leo advocates, you would consider the possibility that religion is, in fact plausible.

 

Religion is good if you want peace of mind .. Serenity ..A sense of purpose..etc

But truth is in a total different world. Truth doesn't have a religion. 

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[TruthFreedom]

@Someone here

Maybe you have intellectualised God and Truth and Love.

When I see Leo posting videos about the technicalities of God and "explaining" what God is, I find it ridiculous.

Don't you see that Leo is actually lost in his own mind.

Freedom comes from worship and praise of OUR GOD IN HEAVEN.

God is the most simple thing there is. That's why there is more Truth in Christianity. Christians are truly humble, they do not claim to be God, yet they worship Him. 

[Malkom]

Again, they accuse me of being an AI. That's a compliment  ( in parentheses NO). An AI wouldn't give you that. The thing is that I am the person who is deeply involved in science. 

If you don't believe me, ask the AI yourself and see how it responds. If I used AI, I wouldn't hide it, because I don't see anything shameful in it.

[Someone here]

@TruthFreedom I wasn't born and raised as Christian ..therefore I'm not a Christian and never will be . As simple as that.

 

 

[TruthFreedom]

@Someone here

It is possible that you could be saved, and when it happens you will know!

[Malkom]

19 minutes ago, Someone here said:

Cute question. It won't change anything. "Illusory" " real" "this" "That" "no" "Yes" "You're wrong" "You're right" Makes no fucking sense.

The thing is.. no amount of theorising will solve existence. That's why Leo is shitting on everything and everyone and outright wants to lose his mind on a psychedelic cocktail.

 

There's no need to solve the problem of existence. The meaning of existence lies in Infinite Beauty in all its manifestations; it's self-sufficient, it's limitless, you can go on forever and never make a mistake...
And if you enjoy solving the problem of existence, you see an intriguing mystery, a beauty in it, then go for it. Why not, when YES?

Existence is the same as Love, but that's not how gurus or spiritual movements describe it. Consciousness operates only from Love; there is nothing else...if you look at the most fundamental level.

Yes, it seems unscientific. In fact, yes, it is unscientific, but it's not anti-scientific either. For example, in mathematics, set theory has ultra-cardinals and cardinals (we won't go into that), and conventional science there actually came out of a chat, ahaha, but nevertheless, this abstraction is real.

Edited 12 hours ago by Malkom

[Someone here]

5 minutes ago, TruthFreedom said:

@Someone here

It is possible that you could be saved, and when it happens you will know!

Saved from what ?!