Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Ramasta9

What if... everything is twisted backwardly?

12 posts in this topic

Have you ever thought... What if what we know as "black" is actually white or a better or closer representation of what "light" is? and what we think of "white" may represent what is "dark" and hidden? I was thinking about it the other day, thinking about how darker-skinned people were the first human race on this planet, but what if everything was twisted to distort the program or game of finding truth? or create a challenging twist that boggles the mind, and that what we call today black is actually white or light and what we call white is actually black or darkness?

Then i was thinking, what if this whole Christ thing or Christ Consciousness or story is backwards too, what if Lucipher was the good guy and Christ was the evil one? So most people may be unconsciously worshiping the wrong one or energy altogether, thus throwing everyone off the path to what they truly seek. 

That got me thinking about modern language, how English is so far off Sanskrit and the ancient languages, where the words themselves and the sound-vibration they emit were / are far closer representations of what the actual thing sounded like. In one ancient language the term for fly was Mizzz.. makes sense right? yet english we call it fly...

Why is then Live evil backwards? Why is awesome not awefull? Why is deadicate not liveicate, why is hell-o not hi heavens? And deep the rabbit hole goes...

These are some fun thoughts I been having lately :P Feel free to share your own.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Its kinda like the demiurge.


Sometimes it's the journey itself that teaches/ A lot about the destination not aware of/No matter how far/
How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Then i was thinking, what if this whole Christ thing or Christ Consciousness or story is backwards too, what if Lucipher was the good guy and Christ was the evil one? So most people may be unconsciously worshiping the wrong one or energy altogether, thus throwing everyone off the path to what they truly seek. 

Christ is supposed to be a simbol for love and wisdom. To praise the opposite of that would be to praise stupidity and ignorance. That by definition would be a stupid and ignorant thing to do imo. 


Freedom is love under all conditions. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

These are just mind games. As the enlightened would say, ahaha, listen to your heart. The heart is also reason, only more intellectual, so to speak, but it lacks the usual rational process, although it is the most rational and sensible. And yes, it can be irrational and even radical from the standpoint of common sense, but that's only superficial.

Edited by Malkom

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
6 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Christ is supposed to be a simbol for love and wisdom. To praise the opposite of that would be to praise stupidity and ignorance. That by definition would be a stupid and ignorant thing to do imo. 

You are not seeing with the correct lens that I speak here my friend, what you say is common sense, what I am saying is similar but different.

Its the energy / signature that influences the current or wave.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Ramasta9 said:

Its the energy / signature that influences the current or wave.

🤨

Okay


Freedom is love under all conditions. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Ramasta9 "That got me thinking about modern language, how English is so far off Sanskrit and the ancient languages, where the words themselves and the sound-vibration they emit were / are far closer representations of what the actual thing sounded like. In one ancient language the term for fly was Mizzz.. makes sense right? yet english we call it fly..."

Studying languages, their origins, philology—that can be interesting. It's immersion in culture, psychology, sociology, even the essence and processes of consciousness. Yes, there's something definitely appealing about that. This is how God, who has no meaning and who possesses all meanings, manifests himself. You can even discard the concept of "God" because it's just an image.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

🤨

Okay

I am suggesting a subtler view, that these are "vibrational signatures, archetypal energies, or currents of consciousness" that move through reality. And those currents influence perception, thought, and even what we call “truth.”

In that sense: “Energy / signature” = the underlying vibration, intention, or consciousness state behind a symbol or story.

“Current or wave” = the flow of reality, the direction of human consciousness or experience.

Ultimately, every word, sound, and symbol carries a frequency or "charge". It’s not just linguistic, it has a resonance built through collective belief, emotion, and historical use. When billions of people project emotion (love, fear, worship, guilt, awe) into a name or symbol over centuries, that field gets encoded into it, like energetic graffiti layered over time.

So yes, if a symbol has been inverted or corrupted (say, intentionally through ritual, manipulation, or mass programming), then the collective field attached to it could be distorted, even if the surface meaning still says “love and light.”

However, the individual’s alignment matters too. Your inner-frequency, sincerity, and clarity of intent are like a tuning fork. If your heart is truly resonating with authentic love, wisdom, and truth, that alignment tends to override the distortion in the external symbol.

The pure intent acts as a corrective frequency, although most of the time for us modern humans, this is not always the case.

At the end of the day, its still just a post, just a play ~

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Ramasta9 as long as you agree with my above comment, I'm okay. 


Freedom is love under all conditions. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

@Ramasta9

You touched on the topic of archetypes. This is Jungian psychology, and you can agree with it or not. But since I studied psychology, I can say for sure that "archetypes" exist in all psychologies, including cognitive behavioral therapy and Gestalt psychology, where I think they're called "archetypes." I can't remember right now what or where they're called, but they're definitely present in all of them; there are no exceptions. Therefore, the concept of "archetypes," although a conditional model, still relates to reality, regardless of one's point of view.

And if we adhere to Jungian psychology, he has, so to speak, an "archetype" that unites all archetypes, the truest archetype. But few people in life can reach it, perhaps even no one. The thing is, to get to it, you need to work with the repressed and denying parts of yourself. First, you need to dive into your "dark side," which is actually "light." It's just dark because of its perverted manifestation in life. You can look at collective neuroses, at maniacs, these are all manifestations of the repressed "dark side." And since you repress it and suppress it, it doesn't stop being there. On the contrary, it gains even greater power over the psyche and life of the subject, and at the same time becomes unconscious, but palpable, like an obsession, and at the same time it destroys everything, because it is not recognized by society, for example, or you yourself deny it, you don't like it, you are disgusted with yourself. Moreover, the "dark side" conceals something extremely valuable and powerful, something that is currently unimaginable until you "know yourself." In short, only through self-love, through self-acceptance, can one attain this Integrity, this Fullness, and I'm not afraid to use the word Infinity, because it is like God and lies beyond the mind.

And so, it's all a game of fantasy, archetypes. There's nothing wrong with that, why not, when yes, ahahaha. And yet, it's the Essence that is needed. This is closer to that very Non-duality, or to your Soul, or to yourself, to simply Be. I often use the phrase "Just Be." Honestly, I don't know how else to describe it. Just BE.

:D

Edited by Malkom

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A discussion could be had which one is a more accurate representation of true love and true wisdom, christ or lucifer. That would be a valid debate, yes.  

Edited by Salvijus

Freedom is love under all conditions. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Malkom said:

@Ramasta9

You touched on the topic of archetypes. This is Jungian psychology, and you can agree with it or not. But since I studied psychology, I can say for sure that "archetypes" exist in all psychologies, including cognitive behavioral therapy and Gestalt psychology, where I think they're called "archetypes." I can't remember right now what or where they're called, but they're definitely present in all of them; there are no exceptions. Therefore, the concept of "archetypes," although a conditional model, still relates to reality, regardless of one's point of view.

And if we adhere to Jungian psychology, he has, so to speak, an "archetype" that unites all archetypes, the truest archetype. But few people in life can reach it, perhaps even no one. The thing is, to get to it, you need to work with the repressed and denying parts of yourself. First, you need to dive into your "dark side," which is actually "light." It's just dark because of its perverted manifestation in life. You can look at collective neuroses, at maniacs, these are all manifestations of the repressed "dark side." And since you repress it and suppress it, it doesn't stop being there. On the contrary, it gains even greater power over the psyche and life of the subject, and at the same time, it destroys everything, because it is not recognized by society, for example, or you yourself deny it, you don't like it, you are disgusted with yourself. Moreover, the "dark side" conceals something extremely valuable and powerful, something that is currently unimaginable until you "know yourself." In short, only through self-love, through self-acceptance, can one attain this Integrity, this Fullness, and I'm not afraid to use the word Infinity, because it is like God and lies beyond the mind.

And so, it's all a game of fantasy, archetypes. There's nothing wrong with that, why not, when yes, ahahaha. And yet, it's the Essence that is needed. This is closer to that very Non-duality, or to your Soul, or to yourself, to simply Be. I often use the phrase "Just Be." Honestly, I don't know how else to describe it. Just BE.

:D

Thanks for sharing, and well said. I am aware of these archetypes and jung's work :) I realized many of these things in my own internal dialogue, long before I knew that they were a "thing", or that someone else had written or spoke about them.

I've been on the path of truth, or spirit, or whatever you wanna call it, for a very long time. He was spot on about many things.

I often like the saying light is darkness integrated. I come and go, I play.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0