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Vagus nerve stimulator can be used for altered states of consciousness

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6 hours ago, OBEler said:

I researched about pulsetto, it is unclear if it uses the recommended PRF frequency. It's a wellness device. 

Truvaga Plus could be better. It uses medical tested frequencys.

I tested pulsetto on my depressed girlfriend. She had effects but not against her depression. But it could help in other areas. It's an interesting technology but I want to test out the best technology available on this field.

Why is the PRF frequency so important?


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@AION Chatgpt5:Because PRF (pulse repetition frequency) determines how often the vagus nerve is stimulated per second. That rate directly affects which nerve fibers are activated and what physiological response occurs.

Pulsetto

According to user-documentation and device guides, Pulsetto uses a burst rate (i.e. PRF) of 25 Hz for many modes. 

The “Burnout” program reportedly uses a somewhat higher pulse frequency (5,200 Hz) but still uses bursts at a certain rate. 

On a Reddit “Ask Us” thread, Pulsetto’s team says: “operates at 4,500 Hz pulse frequency with bursts repeating at 25 Hz rate” for the Stress program. 

Critics claim Pulsetto’s high “carrier” frequencies (4,500–5,200 Hz) diverge from frequencies used in validated clinical VNS and that there is little evidence those higher frequencies are effective in modulating vagal tone. 

Independent reviews note that Pulsetto has not been evaluated in peer-reviewed clinical trials (or evidence is very limited) to confirm efficacy for its claimed mental health/wellness uses. 

Truvaga Plus

Pulsetto’s marketing materials assert that it uses a 5,000 Hz carrier / 25 Hz burst pattern similar to gammaCore (a medical device) and Truvaga. 

Truvaga claims it is based on clinically studied technology. 

However, I did not find independent peer-reviewed confirmation that Truvaga Plus has published robust clinical trials proving its superiority over other tVNS setups (at least from the sources I checked).

Truvaga is marketed as a “wellness” device—its site includes disclaimers that it is not FDA-evaluated for diagnosis or treatment. 

What we don’t know / what to be cautious about

Whether Pulsetto (or Truvaga) reliably delivers the claimed PRF under real-world conditions (skin contact, electrode impedance, movement).

Whether the higher “carrier” frequencies (kilohertz range) meaningfully penetrate tissue and stimulate the correct vagal fibers vs. being attenuated or filtered out.

The dose-response: how long, what amplitude, what duty cycle, and how often sessions must run to produce durable effects.

Safety and side-effect profiles for long-term, repeated use of non-standard frequencies.

Reproducibility: independent labs repeating studies.

Verdict (based on available evidence)

Pulsetto claims to operate at a clinically plausible burst rate (25 Hz), which matches many tVNS studies, but with a higher carrier frequency (4,500–5,200 Hz). Whether that carrier frequency adds anything (or detracts) is unverified.

Truvaga claims to align with clinically studied devices and patterns (e.g. 5,000/25 Hz), but I did not confirm strong, independent clinical trial evidence that Truvaga Plus is better than Pulsetto in practice.

Thus, while Truvaga’s claims may be stronger (or marketed to appear more “medical”), one cannot assume it is definitively better without comparing actual data.

Edited by OBEler

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23 hours ago, AION said:

I haven’t tried it with DMT yet. Only micro dosing on LSD or Molly. But if you have trauma it is a good way to fix that before using psychedelics. 

Spiritual teachers are telling people to take psychedelics while most people are traumatized to their core. It is not responsible and not conscious. 

For me taking psychedelics triggers trauma responses in my body(things I suppressed, everybody has this) This device helps me to calm down while I have trauma responses. 

I have other techniques and devices too which I might share but most people on this forum are not interested in that. They rather talk about goofy alien stuff than healing. That is like trying to go to the prom while you can’t even wipe your own ass. I’m not interested in taking to these idiots anymore. 

What about transcutaneous vagus nerve stimulation (tVNS)? Theoretically it should be stronger than the Pulsetto. Electric stimulation via the Tragus of the left ear? Anyone tried that? It is the first device that he introduces in the video.

Here a similar one:

https://tensmachineuk.com/tens-and-muscle-stimulation/tens-machines/rechargeable-tens-machines/premier-pro-tens-machine-muscle-stimulation

but ear clips are needed.

 

Ma

Edited by MaDoubt

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