First time doing 5meo-dmt - need advice

[Meeksauce]

My health issues are finally clearing up after a few months of constant suffering. I had a stomach infection, and nerve damage in multiple places as well as several other conditions. In light of this, I have decided I want to try 5meo at least a month or two after I'm completely symptom and pain free. I can already drink alcohol and smoke weed again as well as eat whatever I want so my body's already recovered a lot.

 

My question is - what should I expect for a low dose of 5meo for my first time? Is it possible to struggle to breathe after one hit, say 5-10mgs, and how should you counteract this? Is a trip sitter absolutely necessary if I've tripped hundreds of times on other psychs like dmt, shrooms, acid, etc? How overwhelming is it to become absolutely everything? I know this probably wouldn't happen off one hit, but if I took a breakthrough dose, is this terrifying, peaceful, or ineffable to become infinity? I like having mystical experiences and a good mind fuck, but even for me this sounds like a lot.

 

To me it sounds like it would be pretty indescribable as your self is merged into the infinite but idk you guys tell me.

[Thought Art]

There is always a risk. Make sure you are in a calm cool setting, in a room with nothing that can harm you or get knocked over. Start with a low dose. I personally never used a trip sitter. The only danger came from taking doses too high in my experience... (I also use to move around too much and interact with things.. don't do that). Just lay back and relax and chill. Let go and enjoy.

You could very well have a deep experience on your first hit. I don't know how you will respond but it's a pretty quick experience if vaped. If you start low, make sure the set and setting is ideal, calm and safe... Don't use any other drugs days before... You should be okay. Enjoy!

I deeply enjoy the experience generally. I also have a tolerance for scary trips which I have had on 5meo with my ego trying to understand it. So, it's work. It's intense. But, it's worth it if you can get a good trip.

Edited 20 hours ago by Thought Art

[Meeksauce]

1 hour ago, Thought Art said:

There is always a risk. Make sure you are in a calm cool setting, in a room with nothing that can harm you or get knocked over. Start with a low dose. I personally never used a trip sitter. The only danger came from taking doses too high in my experience... (I also use to move around too much and interact with things.. don't do that). Just lay back and relax and chill. Let go and enjoy.

You could very well have a deep experience on your first hit. I don't know how you will respond but it's a pretty quick experience if vaped. If you start low, make sure the set and setting is ideal, calm and safe... Don't use any other drugs days before... You should be okay. Enjoy!

I deeply enjoy the experience generally. I also have a tolerance for scary trips which I have had on 5meo with my ego trying to understand it. So, it's work. It's intense. But, it's worth it if you can get a good trip.

Should I meditate the days prior?

 

And what is a scary 5meo trip like? I've had scary lsd trips where my thought loops were uncomfortable but I realized the only thing I had to fear was fear itself. Is it like that?

[Thought Art]

@Meeksauce Um, Idk. I find it's so expansive that time and past and present can seem like they never existed and all of reality was always and has always been this sort of moment that exists and doesn't exist at the same time. But, this is my ego projection it's more than this. It generally is very benevolent and graceful. 5meodmt taught me levels of forgiveness and wisdom I couldn't have found without that state.

I think meditation and relaxation can help. If you can afford a massage that would be nice. Try doing some relaxing pranayama. Eat well, sleep well.

All this can assist I think. Also, making sure to be in a clean environment, with relaxing music helps. I also like to set a timer I can refer to as it helps me stay a bit more grounded and I feel more secure when I can see time is passing when I glance at it. I also don't let myself move around during the timer. Make sure you trip somewhere that is really comfy too. A relaxing, natural high quality incense can be great too. Also, having a journal to write it afterward. And having a clear schedule for the rest of the day. 

I would measure out the dose, and have some there for when you feel safe enough to go deeper. I personally wade the water low dose even now when I haven't tripped for months. I start low, feel safe enough and I take more and increase the dose. I would trip later that day with a larger dose or the following day. Once I feel safe, I can take a solid dose and really go into it without resistance which is key.

If the trip is uncomfortable, I find doing another trip helps as odd as that sounds, 24 hours later.

Edited 8 hours ago by Thought Art

[AION]

Don't over do it , if you don't want the "waterloo effect"..

[Yimpa]

11 minutes ago, AION said:

Don't over do it , if you don't want the "waterloo effect"..

Correct. Too much "sparkling water" makes my bladder :(

Balance is key.