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Which psychedelic has the biggest impact to cure depression

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@Ramasta9Yes depression is word /emotional game you play with yourself. Mushrooms show you that you are shooting out energy and that energy is hitting the screen of reality and shooting back at you. When you are depressed you are constantly shooting negative energy out and its coming right back at you and you get stuck in a loop of doing it. The permanent cure mushrooms give you is showing you what you are doing and somehow explain how you are doing it to yourself with 0 language.

When I ate shrooms the shrooms  turned my aura field off and that instantly cured me of my depression in 1 second.

They also nuked the neuron in my brain that was relating everything in my life to death. I had terrible death anxiety since I was 9 and I had subconciously programmed everything in my life to attach to that neuron as I thought about it constantly. The shrooms told me verbally that death isnt real via a logical thought process of mind and the death neuron got deleted. When the death neuron deleted every single neuron that was attached to it like recoiled back from it and was free and it felt like 1 million fireworks exploding inside my head. It felt like every other neuron lit up and exploded in happiness.

It felt like an ultimate manic episode where I was screaming at the top of my lungs crying in happiness for 6-8 hours and couldnt stop.

I told myselfthat I was going to kill myself if these mushrooms didnt work . I heard they could cure depression so I tried them even tho I was scared. Instead of me kill my self God killed me. It reward me for not making rash decision and giving God a chance to something even tho I never beleived in it.

I went from having 7 panic attacks a day to 0 in 30 minutes. I have tried to enduce them as I used to induce them via fear of death and non existence. But I cant do it anymore. I can sit there and feel the sinking and falling feeling like a panic attack but now I know fear is just a bs made up thing and I can barely feel it.

Fear of death is a trick of society thats implanted in us purposefully and maliciously. Its a lie.

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@Hojo Thanks for sharing, yes they can do that, and although its not mechanically whats happening, these medicines are very helpful. And the best part about it is that you don't even need shrooms to show you that, rather a change in lifestyle = change in perspective :)

As the saying goes, change the way you see and see how things change. In my understanding they relax the entire brain and nervous system, so toxic and unconscious patterns, triggers, habits ect.. dissolve... Especially those that are not truly yours, rather what you picked up from the world.

These experiences need to be heard and shared, thanks again.

 


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@Ramasta9 There was no way that was gunna happen. I had like 400 voices going off in my head at the same time constantly. It all stemmed from the fear of death. I couldnt sit down without having a panic attack. A big reason I knew I was God instantly is because all the clutter in my mind instantly turned off and I saw a massive change in conciousness very rapidly. When my aura turned off it felt like my soul or energy was crushed into the soles of my feet and it all shot up into my head very quickly.

I saw that I was scaring myself on purpose. So that I could awaken to God. Fear of death is intelligence, something that fears death is intelligent. Its creation, fabricating a concept and fearing it intentionally, but not knowing why.

Basically lowering your energies on purpose, so you can shoot yourself into another dimension like a slingshot of negative ,going into positive, and know God.

People dont fear death so much that have mental collapses because they are not intelligent. If they contemplated the idea they would go mad because its just a ?. Its made up.

People get scared of solipsism and all this other nonsense because they havent taken death seriously. Solipsism is a joke compared to non existence. The benfit of death being the ultimate lie you fall for is its literally not even real its completely made up out of nothing. Its God tier intelligence. You cant be dissapointed.

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23 hours ago, Hojo said:

Mushrooms will do it. They cure my depression in 30 mins. I have depression for like 20 years.

What dose and what setting? How deep do you need a shroom trip to be to cure your depression. For example Is an ego death needed etc.

Yeah I researched shrooms are very good to relieve depression.

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@OBEler I did 1.5 gram in a tea that time. So I think it bumps its potency up to 3 gram. 

1.5 gram in a tea seems like a good starting point.

I was just a home alone.

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13 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@OBEler I did 1.5 gram in a tea that time. So I think it bumps its potency up to 3 gram. 

1.5 gram in a tea seems like a good starting point.

I was just a home alone.

No its just a faster more direct high with less nausea but shorter lived too. It also depends on the type of mushroom and intention.


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@Hojo Its funny when I grew my own 1.5g raw mushroom was one of my most life supportive trips, so often its not the dosage but the intention behind the whole process that makes the biggest difference, because in reality, the Self is creating all of this.


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@Ramasta9I grew 40 grams under my sink after that and ate 20 grams in one night after 15 beers. Then I saw the alien simulation. I only tripped out for like 2 hours but it was a very intense 2 hours of not being on earth anymore. It felt like where my head is turned into a portal and I got sucked out. There were voices in my head guiding me into a trance state.

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21 hours ago, Hojo said:

@OBEler I did 1.5 gram in a tea that time. So I think it bumps its potency up to 3 gram. 

1.5 gram in a tea seems like a good starting point.

I was just a home alone.

I mean , what does such a trip look like to get free from depression afterwards. Is it just chilling and enjoy a bit energy? What happens normally on such a dose.

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@OBEler i dunno i only did it once. I feel you need more than 3 grams to trip out. 1.5 is good to start imo. In a tea so it hits harder and is over faster. My depression was cured cause I saw conciousness it probably had nothing to do with the shrooms. 1.5 eaten wont do shit.

The only reason I saw conciousness during my trip is because I experienced absolute cessation 8 years before and didn't know after drinking 27 beers and smoking something. 

When I ate the shrooms within 30 minutes they were communicating with me that I had already experienced God. Like the shrooms told me inside my head. 

The voice said he remeber 8 years ago when this happened? I said yes and then it said you did die. Then it said how can you know that you died? And I saw it. I must have been there to see it or I wouldn't have qualitative memory of it. Then I saw that you cant die because if I died and experienced something that means I'm still there when I die. Then the void revealed itself to me with my eyes open. Like I was looking at my hand and I could see the void behind it.

It was probably a special case. 

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@Hojo what do you mean with you saw consciousness. And why has it probably nothing to do with shrooms? It's pretty commom to get insights about consciousness on shrooms that's why you take them mostly.

 

Edit: ah thanks for the clarification.

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@OBEler I saw absolute cessation before the shroom trip so I already had data on what death is. If your girlfriend dosent she wont have a starting point. You need a starting point to see conciousness. I had absolute cessation of being as a starting point to point me to what conciousness is. Conciousness can't see itself it can only see itself via then and now. When its pure now, you dont exist, so you have to have an experience of non existence to compare it too.

I don't want to say it can't happen but I don't know.

When I say i saw conciousness I mean I experienced absolutely nothing and still being there.

It has nothingnto do with shrooms because it had to do with my real life experience. The shrooms def helped and saved me but I could have somehow figured it out myself as all the shrooms did was show me what I already knew.

When I saw God i saw it via logic.

It felt like there was a guru sitting outside my head waiting to tell me something and whispered like 3 sentences in my ear to clean up my logic and I awaken.

Tldr

I am just saying the only reason I saw God on 1.5 gram is cause I had previous data about God via life experiences but was confused. I had just told myself  my cessation experience to be a bad dream but the shrooms told me it wasn't a dream and thats where my logic was faulty. The connection switched and I kundalini because my greatest fear non existence was no longer real.

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@Hojo i had one experience while strong determination meditation combined with do nothing where I was looking with open eyes but after some time I was not there just existence. There were zero experience during that time. I had no perception of anyting.

When I came back I saw single frames first and I was surprised that I am conscious and gone before. I lost time how long I was not there.positive  Energy rushed through my body after I came back.

Is that a cessation?

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@OBEler I don't know for me it wasn't like that. My experience of cessation felt like it was 3 months of just looking at nothing. I would wake up or realize that I was still looking at nothing and freak out then after some time I would calm down and just be looking. Then I would realize that I was still just looking and freak out again over and over it happened until I stopped freaking out that I was just looking and became just looking at a void of nothing. 

it felt like sleeping but you know you are looking at nothing. It was like I would be sleeping but I would wake up in sleep and still be sleeping but conciousnes I'm there sleeping. Like imagine you wake up tommorow morning like normal but you are still sleeping. You dont have eyelids to close or open or eyes to move or a body to move. So you sit there freaking wanting to move for as long as possible and drift back into the state of just looking at nothing ( what we call sleeping ).

Then eventually both states merge into sleeping but you know you are doing it you just don't care or cant care anymore. Now sleeping or waking up isn't a thing its just brain dead forever.

Time still existed the same way it does now it felt like I would wake up and freak out for 16 hours. Then go back to sleep. Literal months of this.

Since non existence was my biggest fear it was hell to me.

The shrooms show me I was existing even when dead I just confused it. Sp just calmness down and go into zen mode when you die. When your aware and non aware states merge you can respawn.

The only reason I'm saying 3 months is because I saw a calendar while I was respawning that flipped 3 pages on the calendar.

And as I was respawning i also saw a skeleton bull. And there was a river of souls circling it and a water wheel.

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@Hojo "I would wake up or realize that I was still looking at nothing and freak out"

What do you mean by that? You saw still this reality, objects etc. do you mean you saw that these are just  hollow pictures hold in your consciousness? With absolute nothing behind it? Like just a scenery.

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@OBEler no there were no objects it was the same as sleeping but you can wake up. Pretend you have no eyes eyes are a fantasy. So you close your eyes and are looking at a void. Then you go to 'sleep' which is just a word for staring at the void behind your eyes without thinking. Then you can wake up realize you dont have eyes and reality is just a void staring at itself no eyes needed.

When you sleep you are just turning your thought process off and staring at a void. Sleeping is a word for that.

So I would be in the sleeping space but not be able to move or open my eyes. But I would know I was there the same way you can close your eyes now and still know you are there now.

But no sound no body no voice no eyes or blinking. No moving your mouth or coughing. Just !

When you die there is no getting away or looking away from the void its there and you can't do anything about it except pout.

Life as we know it is the void looking away from itself for a short time.

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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@Hojo wait... you saw not this reality? No objects? For month?  Was this permanent same state (dream/ being awake?)

How did you survive in this world if you don't see anything. Your body was doing its thing autonomous?

What you describe sounds also like coma but you were at the same time somehow functional? Did you work?

 

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@OBElerNo I wasnt here. I was in another place. When you leave this reality time dosent exist. You can spend an eternity in a second. It feel like a 3 months. It was 1 night. I woke up the next morning and felt like I was dead for 3 months.

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@Hojo I mean the 3 month after this night where you felt death. I asked me how you were perceiving reality in this time and were you fully functioning? 

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@OBElerI was in death state for 3 months then I woke up. Basically I was waking up seeing I was stuck in a sleep state and freaking out over and over and then slowly my freak outs got less and less and then I enter a state of no freaking out and both states awake and asleep merge together and you are just brain dead retard staring at nothing forever as you have no idea how much time is passing.I could have woken up as a baby coming out of a vagina and wouldnt have been able to question it. Im not talking about 3 months in reality I am talking about 3 months in sleep state but aware I was in it.

And the only reason I knew it was 3 months is because as I was coming back into the dream I saw a calendar that flipped 3 pages on it. When I woke up the next morning I wasnt even hungover ( after drinking 27 beers) I just felt like I had died for that long and I just said it was a dream.

I was very happy to be alive for like 2 weeks after then my depression come back.I experienced life normally I went to school and did other stuff, nothing bad happened to my body, but my soul was crushed.

Then 8 years later I take mushrooms and the mushrooms told me that I was actually there experiencing it and it happened to me.And it pointed this out and I saw consciousness via logic.

Imagine a baby is born. The baby has 0 concept of time or anything. It just wakes up and cries and cries and cries until it falls asleep. Its like that. If the baby wakes up and cries and cries and goes to sleep for 3 months it has no idea 3 months has passed its just waking up and crying for a long time. If the baby wakes up and cries and cries and there no one there to comfort it it feels absolute abandonment.

 

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How you go/How long it may last/Venture life, burn your dread

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