I had a real awakening

[Meeksauce]

3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

Does an object exist or is it a carving out that you do with your mind? Where does the beach end and the ocean begin?

It's neither and both at the same time. A perfect strange loop.

[Carl-Richard]

3 minutes ago, Meeksauce said:

It's neither and both at the same time. A perfect strange loop.

So solipsism is true and not true at the same time? The objects are there, they exist, but they also are not there, they don't exist, at the same time?

[Salariatu]

11 hours ago, Meeksauce said:

I just took 4 tabs of lsd and grabbed some amazing insights for you all. Yes, Solipsism is true and everything Leo says is correct. I verified this to be absolutely impossible for it to not be true through direct experience. I made a forum a while ago attempting to debunk solipsism, and I acknowledge I was wrong. You guys should listen to Leo more instead of trying to refute him all day like me. Anyways, the bulk of what I wanted to get at with this is that God is a GENIUS. GENIUS is baked into the way reality is designed, and God has an intellect and even sense of humor not so different to us humans. He is constantly showering us in love using the most subtle yet effective means possible, and everything in your life happens so you can awaken deeper and deeper to God. God fragmented itself off to forget what it was like to be God, and is slowly feeding itself reminders until it remembers. I know it sounds like I'm just re-hashing everything Leo says but MAN it feels good to finally gain these realizations for myself. It's really all true and it's the most amazing thing! Because solipsism is true, your thoughts are directly intertwined with reality and how it interacts and responds to you. God is CONSTANTLY communicating to you, it's just a matter of whether you're able to hear it/listen to it. There is so much staggering genius put into every minute nook and cranny of reality, that it defies all possibility. Anyways that's my two cents on how everything works. I hope all of you will be able to realize these things for yourself because man it feels great when you do.

Spiritual pipe dreaming. The collective ego fed you some buiscuits along the way. Why talking about others instead of yourself? Who is more important for yourself than yourself? God is not what you described, that is only a romantic idea from the matrix. You had an awakening or not, but as you sound, you only got a trip based on what you know about reality. So, this is not to be disrespectful or anything, just pointing out the strawman in the ideas exposed. 

[Meeksauce]

28 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

So solipsism is true and not true at the same time? The objects are there, they exist, but they also are not there, they don't exist, at the same time?

I'm saying the external world does not exist. Not that objects don't exist. The strange loop is referring to the relationship of perceiver and perceived. You see whatever's in your mind's eye, but that's all there is. Solipsism is absolutely true and has no opposite, like Leo says.

[Hojo]

@SalariatuThis is an insult to God, God is infinite. Why cant it be like that?

[Meeksauce]

28 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

Spiritual pipe dreaming. The collective ego fed you some buiscuits along the way. Why talking about others instead of yourself? Who is more important for yourself than yourself? God is not what you described, that is only a romantic idea from the matrix. You had an awakening or not, but as you sound, you only got a trip based on what you know about reality. So, this is not to be disrespectful or anything, just pointing out the strawman in the ideas exposed. 

You got me all wrong. I'm the guy that shits on people for being ideological. I have taken great measure to rid my mind of epistemic dogma. Everything I said is 100% my direct experience, even at this very moment long after the trip has ended. I challenge you to take 500ug lsd like I did or an equivalent dose of any psychedelic and we'll see who's talking. I would be willing to bet you have not done so already, otherwise you would know I'm right. Let me hear your ideas of God, I guarantee they're a crock of shit.

[Meeksauce]

3 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@SalariatuThis is an insult to God, God is infinite. Why cant it be like that?

I second this. You greatly underestimate the utter genius, mastery, and wizardry that God is capable of.

[Hojo]

@MeeksauceWords dont even mean anything.

[Salariatu]

Well, don't be ofended, just don't expect to receive aplause for preconception ideas of what God is or this modern spiritual ideas are. Is way beyond of what you think.

[Salariatu]

1 hour ago, Meeksauce said:

I second this. You greatly underestimate the utter genius, mastery, and wizardry that God is capable of.

Look, i'm well versed with drugs. But what you have experienced is just an ideal you have. God is infinite, i know this, and i know what it is also. Don't confuse God with the light in the sense of angels and beautiful concepts. God is so real that cannot be lowered in what today's enlightenment dogma says. Per exemple that God has decided to experience the egoic state of being and stuff like that, humans have decided that, by society's condition, not God. 

I'm God, in the sense that i have awaken from the sleep of what society is, the matrix. Thinking that i'm God the creator of the universe, that is a made up spiritual idea of nowadays. God is not the collective consciousness of the universe, is more than that. 

[Meeksauce]

2 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

Look, i'm well versed with drugs. But what you have experienced is just an ideal you have. God is infinite, i know this, and i know what it is also. Don't confuse God with the light in the sense of angels and beautiful concepts. God is so real that cannot be lowered in what today's enlightenment dogma says. Per exemple that God has decided to experience the egoic state of being and stuff like that, humans have decided that, by society's condition, not God. 

I'm God, in the sense that i have awaken from the sleep of what society is, the matrix. Thinking that i'm God the creator of the universe, that is a made up spiritual idea of nowadays. God is not the collective consciousness of the universe, is more than that. 

If what I experienced was just a trip, then why is reality permanently broken for me after the trip? In other words, impossible and magical things have been happening to me that defy what you would normally think reality can do. No I'm not still tripping. And yes you can know beyond a shadow of a doubt what the truth is. I have attained that possibility. Just take mine and Leo's word that it can be done. I'm not a new ager. I don't have any beliefs, only the absolute truth which is plain and obvious and right before my eyes but could only be attained with a huge enlightenment. You are the one lost in concepts my friend. You push God out as somewhere out there, this is your mind's way of keeping you separated from God and not considering enlightenment to be a genuine possibility.

[Meeksauce]

21 minutes ago, Hojo said:

@MeeksauceWords dont even mean anything.

They do though. Reality has an intellect and is able to be understood. Language exists as a mechanism for God to interact with and understand itself.

[Salariatu]

1 hour ago, Meeksauce said:

If what I experienced was just a trip, then why is reality permanently broken for me after the trip? In other words, impossible and magical things have been happening to me that defy what you would normally think reality can do. No I'm not still tripping. And yes you can know beyond a shadow of a doubt what the truth is. I have attained that possibility. Just take mine and Leo's word that it can be done. I'm not a new ager. I don't have any beliefs, only the absolute truth which is plain and obvious and right before my eyes but could only be attained with a huge enlightenment. You are the one lost in concepts my friend. You push God out as somewhere out there, this is your mind's way of keeping you separated from God and not considering enlightenment to be a genuine possibility.

Look, you talk to someone that is enlightened, because i can't lie that i'm not. So ask me anything about reality, but don't expect to receive an answer that is outside of reality. Plain and simple, and before you judge me about what i think about what God is or explaining what i think or you think that i think about God is, does not make sense. First wake up, after that you can debate me. Or in other words, why you write about what God is if you did not attained Godliness?

Take care.

Edited yesterday at 03:44 AM by Salariatu

[Meeksauce]

3 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

Look, you talk so someone that is enlightened, because i can't lie that i'm not. So ask me anything about reality, but don't expect to receive an answer that is outside of reality. Plain and simple, and before you judge me about what i think about what God is or explaining what i think or you think that i think about God is, does not make sense. First wake up, after that you can debate me.

Take care.

I did wake up. You're low balling me, I know what I got. Lol

[Salariatu]

1 hour ago, Meeksauce said:

I did wake up. You're low balling me, I know what I got. Lol

Then, tell me about about the spirits of the dead, what are they? How can you contact them? How they work? 

[Hojo]

@SalariatuThis is called psychological grifting. You say hes wrong he says its what I saw, you say its wrong in a nice way then say take care, to seem you are a superior.

7 minutes ago, Salariatu said:

Look, you talk to someone that is enlightened, because i can't lie that i'm not. So ask me anything about reality, but don't expect to receive an answer that is outside of reality. Plain and simple, and before you judge me about what i think about what God is or explaining what i think or you think that i think about God is, does not make sense. First wake up, after that you can debate me. Or in other words, why you write about what God is if you did not attained Godliness?

Take care.

Edited yesterday at 03:49 AM by Hojo

[Salariatu]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@SalariatuThis is called psychological grifting. You say hes wrong he says its what I saw, you say its wrong in a nice way then say take care, to seem you are a superior.

Look, i'm not humble, if you know you know, if you don't you don't. But saying you know and can't explain it, than you don't know you are still sleeping. I'm talking in general here. 

[Hojo]

@SalariatuThis has nothing to do with being humble this is a psychological tactic built into how you communicate with people that you are doing unconsciously to manipulate another person who isnt there so you can feel right.

Why do you say take care to feign sincerity? 

 

Edited yesterday at 03:53 AM by Hojo

[Salariatu]

1 hour ago, Hojo said:

@SalariatuThis has nothing to do with being humble this is a psychological tactic built into how you communicate with people that you are doing unconsciously to manipulate another person who isnt there so you can feel right.

 

 

Let's take an example. If i come and compare myself and what i expose per example about reality and i compare myself to Osho or Leo and saying look, you need to trust this, all the forum is in tune to this, do you see the flaw?

 

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, Meeksauce said:

I'm saying the external world does not exist. Not that objects don't exist. The strange loop is referring to the relationship of perceiver and perceived. You see whatever's in your mind's eye, but that's all there is. Solipsism is absolutely true and has no opposite, like Leo says.

The versions of idealism that are consistent with non-duality as the ultimate reality claim that whatever you perceive in your mind's eye is limited, while non-duality is unlimited. When you start claiming things about perception in your mind's eye, what it is, what its boundaries are, what its limitations are, you are outside the domain of non-duality and into the relative. In other words, solipsism is relative, not absolute. The absolute exists beyond all limitations, beyond any notion of a boundary, internal and external, it's all relative.

Edited yesterday at 04:12 AM by Carl-Richard