Thailand/Cambodia border clashes

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@PurpleTree Their going against them in Europe how by spying on them? That's a clear abuse of power - authoritarian not imperial which is aimed towards foreign groups. It's a grey area here because most if not all states have surveillance or spy on their citizens particularly if they pose some sort of threat - terrorism, separatist etc. That's normal behaviour for any state - to maintain territorial integrity and see any citizens threatening that as a national security risk. Especially when you have outside forces who'd like to de-stabilize and weaken you via those separatists.

Right now there's lots of protests in the UK at migrant hotels from the ''far right''. Migrants being housed at native peoples expense while native people's public services are diminished and buckling under pressure - unsafe streets, NHS trouble, homelessness etc. These groups could pose a threat for civil unrest or even war (unlikely I think) but I've read many comments from them saying ''we'r not scared of civil war, we in fact need one''.

Would it then be right or wrong for the UK government to spy on them to maintain national security? That's where things get murky. Even say if Catalonia wanted to separate from Spain - of course Spain is going to prevent that because its the natural way a state acts. Check enchanted's comment and especially the video which goes into why China has firewalled the internet the way it has, for the reasons it has.

On 7/27/2025 at 5:18 PM, enchanted said:

If we knew how well the middle class lives in China we would riot. China has solved poverty and homeless for its entire population in our lifetimes. They have 90% home ownership rate. Universal Healthcare, low crime rate, affordable high quality education, cheap electric cars, good environmental regulations, high speed rail, etc etc..compare that to the tent cities, mass shooting, toxic social media, culture wars, and fentanyl epidemics of the "free world". 

One major reason China is doing so well is because they don't have two parties undermining each other every 4 years. They have one party committed to improving the lives of its people, the environment, advancing technology.

We are deluding ourselves in the West at this point that we are in any way better than China. We need to stop infighting and pull out shit together to remain competitive. Heres a good video and channel on the topic....