Geoengineering is an Awesome Life Purpose

[aurum]

7 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Or perhaps your vision has some enormous flaws, have you considered the possibility ?

You could make that argument about anything. Including your own perspective.

Yes, I am subject to flaws, limited information and self-deception. But don't kid yourself, because so are you.

[Wilhelm44]

@aurum  This is going to sound New Age, I know. But this planet is a living being, just like you and me. Do you think it will take kindly to you, a fleeting visitor, deciding in your infinite wisdom that you have the right to replace the entire current eco system, with something of your making.  I see that more as a horror movie script. I know you mean well though.

[Wilhelm44]

@aurum  Go and spend a month in nature and really connect deeply with all of it. And then see if you still have the same vision.

[aurum]

20 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Do you think it will take kindly to you, a fleeting visitor

I am the Earth

20 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Go and spend a month in nature and really connect deeply with all of it. And then see if you still have the same vision

You wrongly assume I haven't done such things.

[Wilhelm44]

@aurum  Morphic fields are another example of the staggering complexity and intelligence that goes into nature.

Trying to play God in this domain is a slippery slope into a whole range of unanticipated consequences.

We need a major breakthrough in clean affordable energy. 

That would be evolution.

 

[aurum]

5 hours ago, Wilhelm44 said:

@aurum  Morphic fields are another example of the staggering complexity and intelligence that goes into nature.

Trying to play God in this domain is a slippery slope into a whole range of unanticipated consequences.

We need a major breakthrough in clean affordable energy. 

That would be evolution.

 

The intelligence is GOD.

And it doesn't just go "into nature", it's in humans. 

A breakthrough in clean affordable energy would be nice, but that's thinking way too small.

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[Wilhelm44]

1 hour ago, aurum said:

The intelligence is GOD.

And it doesn't just go "into nature", it's in humans. 

A breakthrough in clean affordable energy would be nice, but that's thinking way too small.

Wouldn't the adoption of effective clean energy use all around the world, be the very thing that saves nature from it's current crisis ?

[aurum]

17 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Wouldn't the adoption of effective clean energy use all around the world, be the very thing that saves nature from it's current crisis ?

And what about the next crisis?

Crises never end because survival never ends.

[Wilhelm44]

29 minutes ago, aurum said:

And what about the next crisis?

Crises never end because survival never ends.

So what are you trying to accomplish with geoengineering then ?

[aurum]

6 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

So what are you trying to accomplish with geoengineering then ?

Survival, purpose and potential for humanity.

[Wilhelm44]

14 minutes ago, aurum said:

Survival, purpose and potential for humanity.

But you just said survival never ends ?

Can you expand on the purpose and potential part ?

[aurum]

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

But you just said survival never ends ?

That's right. In that sense, survival is pointless.

But you still have to participate in it. Unless you want you and your loved ones to die?

Embrace the paradox.

3 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Can you expand on the purpose and potential part ?

Purpose is about doing something you find meaningful with your life. Usually in the form of contribution to the world.

Geoengineering is a good purpose for humanity to pursue. It will challenge us in many ways to evolve.

Potential is about what humanity could become. More developed, more powerful, more loving, more conscious, more wise.

Imagine humanity as an intergalactic species. That's potential.

[Wilhelm44]

8 hours ago, aurum said:

That's right. In that sense, survival is pointless.

But you still have to participate in it. Unless you want you and your loved ones to die?

Embrace the paradox.

Purpose is about doing something you find meaningful with your life. Usually in the form of contribution to the world.

Geoengineering is a good purpose for humanity to pursue. It will challenge us in many ways to evolve.

Potential is about what humanity could become. More developed, more powerful, more loving, more conscious, more wise.

Imagine humanity as an intergalactic species. That's potential.

Survival, and becoming an intergalactic species, is possible without replacing the entire eco system with something of your own making.

I still don't think you have considered properly the potential consequences of your plan. As I said, earth itself is a living organism. 

I'm getting "Island of Doctor Moreau" vibes here. 

 

[aurum]

1 hour ago, Wilhelm44 said:

Survival, and becoming an intergalactic species, is possible without replacing the entire eco system with something of your own making.

I still don't think you have considered properly the potential consequences of your plan. As I said, earth itself is a living organism. 

I'm getting "Island of Doctor Moreau" vibes here. 

Believe what you want.

I made the points I wanted to make.

 

[Wilhelm44]

49 minutes ago, aurum said:

Believe what you want.

I made the points I wanted to make.

 

Cheers, I enjoyed the conversation.