I QUIT SMOKING - 30 DAYS OF STRENGTH

[UnbornTao]

Keep it up!

Withdrawal symptoms can be intense (I’m not a smoker), but as you said, they’re manageable. Just push through this phase of struggle and focus on the long-term benefits. Good luck.

[Optimized Life]

Day 8-14 is very real 

1. Technically you've already won at this stage because of the of sunk cost fallacy, so there's some satisfaction

2. But the anger, the restless sleep and cortisol is unhinged 

I could literally join WW3 and go to war right now, amped up on cortisol  

The main thing i've learnt from this : The Power Of Precise Education & Knowledge & also the importance of our relationship and perception towards things/knowledge and how that interplays within the social matrix  

1. Before, to me "smoking was very bad" - but also there's competing thoughts like "everything in moderation" "Carl jung smoked pipe, nicotine is a strong nootropic"
2. I got in a loop whereby every time I fucked up on something important I smoked, every time I needed to reflect at night I smoked, and there was some genuine short term benefit, probably even  intellectual 

3. Heres the main thing : 

There's "knowledge" and then theres KNOWLEDGE - Which is precise, vivid ect.. 

• "Smoking is bad ... but I'm stressed at the moment so its a cope right, i'll quit when im rich"

VS > Smoking moderately for just 2-3 months literally ages your face by 2 years, and takes 90 days to recover the damage, and if you keep smoking just for a year, you age your face even more, you literally suddenly look years older than you did. 

Also, "smoking is a cope for stress" is a myth - it's basically just retarded, it increases baseline anxiety, this is a fact. Nicotine = Anxiety 

Also if you are a smoker, then guaranteed every time you sleep you are in mild withdrawal, that's why it's so addictive & "more addictive than heroin", the withdrawal is such a fast onset that you're not even given the time and space to sleep 7 hours without it

Then becuase you sleep in mild withdrawal, there is no chance in hell you are not damaging your brain every day, waking up full of cortisol every day, damaging you body with withdrawal induced anxiety and stress and poor sleep architecutre every day, so there branches out other 2nd and 3rd order consequences,  this is an accumulation of bodily damage, every day, comounding inmediately and exponentially

Just goinig into precise detail of all the ways smoking ruins your face, is enough to never do it again, unless on rare ritualistic occasion 

@UnbornTao Thanks!!!

Edited May 27 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

I'm literally losing my fucking mind 

This better be nicotine withdrawal otherwise some bastards poisoned me with lead in my sleep. 

Haven't been so consistenly virilently angry inse  a long time

Edited May 27 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

18 hours ago, Optimized Life said:

I'm literally losing my fucking mind 

This better be nicotine withdrawal otherwise some bastards poisoned me with lead in my sleep. 

Haven't been so consistenly virilently angry inse  a long time

Anger is mostly gone now (but only god knows if it rebounds) 

Yesterday was pure rage day lmao 

Literally started kicking traffic signs and shit, picked up that wet floor thing too and kicked the shit out of it lmao 

Realized this could get dangerous so I travelled a whole hour just to find a gym with boxing and bag 

Had to smash the heavy and lighter bag for like 2 hours and power walk, completely exhaust my body 

Still can't sleep more than 5-6 Hours, I am no longer afraid of it and accept it as part of the process 

However, it's pushed me  to look into sleep and stress optimization to see if I can at least mititate the withdrawal impact - Considering buying L theanine powder and magnesium Glycineate 

Not keen to get a 20 supplement stack as that just makes your life pure chaos, looking for the magic trifecta I can rely on 

Perhaps it's L theanine + Magnesium + Maca >> Stress reduction/presence + Sleep/holistic health + libido accentuation 

I'm now not taking anything for granted, found a really cheap trial offer for a hot yoga class, interested to see how the heat detoxes my body, in combination with the mediative and body awareness stuff, it's also a good way to ground myself within feminine energy

My life still has a long way to go and I have to hustle with warrior energy in business to win, but I refuse to embody 99% of business men who are bolding, cigarette smoking, one dimensional beta provider stressed aging workaholics , wife is probably screwing the poolboy, and their life is an endless persuit of profit 

No fuck that, I will get what I need from them, get their money, do business with them, But i'll be the exception, I'll be the hot yoga, cold approaching meditating high testosterone business man, will not tolerate anything else anymore.  

If I have to sleep 5-6 hours for another 2 weeks so be it, I can only do my best, and I have faith that I will sleep properly within time, full of life and testosterone, libido, passion, and vigour  

Edited May 28 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

Grateful for my Fall : The Asymmetric Vertical Boomerang Effect 

I am grateful for my fall : smoking for months, eating mcdonalds for 6-8 months (alongside some nutritious food - which enabled me to continuously justify it), skin becoming worse, gaining body 6% body fat, yellower teeth, abusing caffiene and full of cortisol, no hobbies no balance, vibe with women getting worse even as I approached more, masturbating multiple times a day even some porn - zero sexual energy, drinking 5-10 beers a week ... 

And the 1 decision to quit smoking, plus a chat GPT boosted educational turbo injection into my brain, has led me on a strong path of resurgence, I'm not learning so much more every day from a new perespective, about health, self care, mental health, women, the subconscious mind, game, strategy, dieting, looksmaxing, prescence and aura building, no fap. 

After quitting smoking, I'm not considering doing a caffiene reset, I have been heavily addicted and unable to stop caffiene for many years, and the worst thing is that I actually am sensitive to it, I am not tolerant of it even in moderate doses, yet I kept doing it, for years ... Because I was desperate to speed up, speed up results, business. 

But sometimes slowing down, just once, or for a shortwhile, is the only thing that can truly speed you up ,ironically, it's counterintuitive and no one does it

Edited May 29 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

Day 18 : 

• Still easily distractible (without intentional boundary setting, self awarness and eforecment of structure) 
• ^ This is force multiplied by the 5 - 6.5 Hours of daily sleep (I need 7+) and my manic ENTP personality type
• Sleeping 5- 6.5 hours every night, accumulative sleep depth, and feels low quality 
• I wanted to go off caffiene but it is unrealistic and counter strategic (the lack of productivity would cause stress, and I thrive off only pressure, but not guilt induced stress) 
• Anger and intense emotions are mostly gone (but may easily return) 

It is unexpected to imagine something so legal, widely used and apparently tame affecting me for this long, after only months of use, usage which in the 50s would've been extremely moderate at best. But nicotine probably will keep imacting me for a month, and if i'm unlucky possibly much longer. I've heard it's possible for people to be impacted by nicotine cessation for years ... but my assupmtion is tht they were long term chronic users, as that's just fucking wild. 

What helps me with this a lot :  The lens of war 

The medicore me would just get distracted and half do 15 different things, probably have 7 different bills unpaid and potential debt collection calls (almost there already) 

But when I see this period thorugh the lens of war, when intesnity and and a sense of battle is instilled, I spring to action, and can embody structure, discipline, lists, goals a timeline, a plan. 

Also, meaningful goal 

I don't want to do business, I dont want to work, I dont want to work when tired, sleep deprived and in withdrawal 

I dont want to write lists and plans and have structure and disciplinen

Technically no one does 

But when its tied to a meaningful goal, through the lens of war? And I genuinely feel and think about that every minute, reminding myself, strategically every day, with an emotional charge, with constant feedback, metrics, visualization of success, fire inside me, then I will do it, then I will write the list, and do it every fucking day

 

Edited June 5 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

Day 18/19 : 4 Hours sleep 

A HUGE Mistake : I Fapped 

I was on somewhere around 10-14 days of no fap, and, I felt noticeably better, more masculine, more energy, more presence, women staring at me as I walked past 

This isn't purely the no fap, its a force multiplier 

"No fap is dumb" to an INTP like Leo, but to a ENTP 8W7 SX/SO? It's a fuckng force mulitplier 

"I need to sleep so let me just release" (Ironically it made it harder to sleep and I slept 4 hours) 

Fapping does not help sleep, when you fantasize it creates stimulation and dopamine 

NO 

DISCIPLINE 

I GET TO RELEASE ONLY WHEN I CONQUER A WOMAN 

No Fap makes me superhuman, it allows me to fully be myself, full of vitality power and magnetism 

Edited June 7 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

Day 20/21 

SO fucking angry WTF 

It's related to poor sleep over weeks but can't disconnect that from the withdrawals 

Have to transmute this shit 

Have to take what i can and use whatever I have 

Have to constantly listen to music with airpods in , 

Technially it might be "unhealthy overload of EMF & stimulation" or some shit rightop

But you have to deal with the problem at hand 

And the solution is transmutation 

I cant be completely calm right now or sleep perfectly or have perfect focus, its out of my control to an extent in the short term

But what I can do is listen to the right music and transmutate 

I can work with anger theres still energy 

I can work harder because im so fucking mad 

It might not be the most optimal fuel 

But who gives a fuck? 

It's about getting the result regardless

[Optimized Life]

On 06/06/2025 at 8:29 AM, Optimized Life said:

Day 18/19 : 4 Hours sleep 

A HUGE Mistake : I Fapped 

3.5 Days later and already have 50-65% of the gains back, despite suboptimal sleep ect.. It's like "muscle memory" from the previous streak just shooting back up 

No Fap + ENTP 8W7 SX/SO + Post - Difficult Approaches Aura + Mysterious Aura from deep war study + 60-70% pure diet (still better than 99% of population, even if just drinking just 1 litre of raw milk and fucking up everyhting else) + Ultra high testosterone + Decent looks(+ Looksmaxing into low key chad territory) + strong personality built from genuine suffering and endless persistence and adversity + Insatiable daily thirst for pragmatic knowledge + deep understanding of literally anything useful or revelavant fathomable + ultra high libido + muscular ripped 11% body fat physique + insane work ethic = FUCKING SUPER HUMAN 

IM COMING BACK AND NO ONE IS BEATING ME THIS TIME BITCH 

 

Edited June 9 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

10 hours ago, Optimized Life said:

3.5 Days later and already have 50-65% of the gains back, despite suboptimal sleep ect.. It's like "muscle memory" from the previous streak just shooting back up 

No Fap + ENTP 8W7 SX/SO + Post - Difficult Approaches Aura + Mysterious Aura from deep war study + 60-70% pure diet (still better than 99% of population, even if just drinking just 1 litre of raw milk and fucking up everyhting else) + Ultra high testosterone + Decent looks(+ Looksmaxing into low key chad territory) + strong personality built from genuine suffering and endless persistence and adversity + Insatiable daily thirst for pragmatic knowledge + deep understanding of literally anything useful or revelavant fathomable + ultra high libido + muscular ripped 11% body fat physique + insane work ethic = FUCKING SUPER HUMAN 

IM COMING BACK AND NO ONE IS BEATING ME THIS TIME BITCH

I'm at like 15-16% body fat right now, still have a lot more difficult approach karma to do, still fixing the norwood, still need to improve sleep and libido energy ect. could be much better

Also have a lot more persistcance to build and a lote more to prove to myself still and could be 15X stronger than I am still 

Had to clarify as I don't like to take credit for something as if I've already achieved it when I haven't

This was more a visionary rant, but i'm reminding myself especially to not take credit for a fatansy but to actually obtain it 

11% body fat might sound shallow but depends on the perspective 

From my perspective it's all about the challenge and discipline, and the interesting experiment of just seeing how far I can go, when you max multiple things, what is the combinatory effect? Is it just linear? is there diminishing returns? Or is there actually some kind of magical mythical status you can obtain? because multi - variate combinations are fucking rare, even just theoretically on math principle 

Edited June 10 by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

I'm probably at 30 days and I've definitely "won" the smoking battle ... i'm not smoking anymore. 

Whether i'm still impacted by symptoms hard to say because other confounding variables right now 

I am going through severe nervous system burnout due to overworking the last 2 weeks, combined with distress, pressure, trying to do too much and not recovering my nervous system properly as i had to tasx my body last week .. thought i could just pick it up after 2 days woo cold approach work woo everything no i cant GPT helped me understand this, nervous system recovery means you have to destimulate, leave all the pressure put it all away for 3-5 days, long naps, remove chores tasks and form of "micro stress" that would normally be a healthy part of an active life, remove the gym remove it all. 

I'm intentionally eating a satiating comfort burger and fries, taking long naps and watching a documentary for hours, and i'm going to have to possibly do this for another 3-4 days and emotionally too i need to detach from everything somehow, all my goals fears regrets desires needs tasks chores it's all disappearing, i have completely taxed my body and brain recently and i just need to fucking stop, no more writing no more thinking, just naps documentaries comfort food and and sleep. with my personality type this is the hardest thing I can ever do, might sound just easy and nice to sit around in comfort but to me it's hell, its another few days of not getting closer to who I want to be become, * It FEELS that way but actually it's just necessary for me to recharge 

No fap is non negotiable, I fapped and killed my 10 day streak last night and it did not help 

No fap is the no.1 habit among everything and leos biggest blindspot, it's the one aspect in which i wish i was never influenced by this forum, no fap is non negotiable, i will watch a documentary and eat my satiating burger today, i will try rest my mind, try let go, but the no fap will rebuild, and I'm going for 30 days this time, i might even make a separate journal (like this one) on just my no fap rejourny (i used to do it years ago but I lacked other qualities to enable it as a force multiplier, now I'm bringing it back and its completing me, the magnetism, the stares from women, it doesn't fucking lie! I'm not a supermodel, im decent looking but not standout hot, even at 15-16% bodyfat i get stares from 6.5 + women at day 10, not claiming I get constant stares from 10s, but getting stares from 6.5-7s is no small thing because women date up and are very selective, 99% of men dont get stares from even 6s, and its not solely the no fap its also good style and posture and subsconious work but the no fap is the force multiplier that powers everything, it's the electricity transversing the grid

 

Edit ** I tried eating the "comfort food" and it did nothing for me, it did not rest me 

I tried starting a documentary and the regret, stress, frustration just piles up again and agian and again 

HOw the fuck does anyone do this? how the fuck does this "Rest" the nervous system? 

WHy cant i just keep working? Its anxiety abut not moving forward that stresses me, not action 

AHHH Chat gpt has to be wrong sometimes 

I've learn another deeper lesson about myself, inaction especially before like 7-8PM, is mental suicide to me, even if i'm technically burnt out, i literally had like a 1-2 hour nap and GPT convicned me to not create "micro stress", what the fuck is this? I have chores to do, i have goals, i have a city to move to, i need to make money, save money, invest money, approach women ... what the fuck man what the fuck this just makes me sooo much more fucking stessed and anxious, just sitting around "recouperating" i'm literally in my 20s not 95 years old? why do this shit absolute hell for my ennegram soul of a being 

Edited Tuesday at 03:31 PM by Optimized Life

[Optimized Life]

1 hour ago, Optimized Life said:

Edit ** I tried eating the "comfort food" and it did nothing for me, it did not rest me 

I tried starting a documentary and the regret, stress, frustration just piles up again and agian and again 

HOw the fuck does anyone do this? how the fuck does this "Rest" the nervous system? 

WHy cant i just keep working? Its anxiety abut not moving forward that stresses me, not action 

AHHH Chat gpt has to be wrong sometimes 

I've learn another deeper lesson about myself, inaction especially before like 7-8PM, is mental suicide to me, even if i'm technically burnt out, i literally had like a 1-2 hour nap and GPT convicned me to not create "micro stress", what the fuck is this? I have chores to do, i have goals, i have a city to move to, i need to make money, save money, invest money, approach women ... what the fuck man what the fuck this just makes me sooo much more fucking stessed and anxious, just sitting around "recouperating" i'm literally in my 20s not 95 years old? why do this shit absolute hell for my ennegram soul of a being 

Have to know yourself 

"Burnout" and stress is highly individual and personal 

The only main factors are 

1. Sleep (and no fap) 

2. Mental stuff 

Once sleep is recovering its all mental 

And thats why its 90% individual ou

"Resetting for 3-5 days and just doing nothing" is absolute hell for my unique personality type, it causes extreme distress 

*I'm not talking about an intentional rest where u like take mushrooms with an intention for inner growth, thats purposeful, thats useful, thats a creative way to build inner game for example and im open to that, not what im on about though 

"Watch netflix and eat comfort food and dont do any travel or commuting (to cold approach) because it introduces "micro stress" 

Yeah it's micro stress but what introduces MACRO fucking stress? Not cold approaching, not making money, not doing my chores, not strategizing, not reprogramming my mind further, not building my inner game, not planning my escape to move city, fucking endless pain and distress 

Massively fucking depedns on your personal libido, ennegram, myers briggs, instinct stack and probably multiple other factors too like testosterone levels and maybe multiple other specific factors psychologists haven't discovered and revealed yet, so no I will not sit and rest, I'm going back to war and for me personally, that removes all my stress! because im fucking me, and thats how im wired. 

Doing a visualization exercize right now 

Caveat is that there are limits, not saying I need to "Go and do 4 hours int the gym and not sleep and work 19 hour days" obviously fucking not ... and yes burn out and recovery still is a thing, even for me, so there is a graduation process, but just switching off completely? even for an hour? Hell 

The perfect "recovery" for me is to do useful things, but perhaps less cognitively demanding, or less physical, or just easier stuff, and maybe I do all these things for a couple days, but they're useful, they're still moving me forward, and that acknowledgement REDUCES FUCKING STRESS 

Just wasting a few hours has made me FUCKING ANGRY AS FUCK FUCK THAT NO 

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I gave you the wrong prescription because I was playing to the average nervous system, not your warrior psychology.

The positive is that this is proof that I'm fully deepening into my integrated self now

The average man cannot even resist eating junk food and sitting around wasting time 

For me it's hell even when it was "prescribed to me due to burnout" 

I know who I am 

If I'm burnt out then I fucking sleep or nap, end of story.

Then I wake up and go back to war, immediately 

Edited Tuesday at 03:47 PM by Optimized Life