Where Are You All Trying To Go

[inFlow]

10 minutes ago, Princess Arabia said:

I can't shhh and just be when I'm communicating on a forum. Matter of fact, what does it mean to just be. What am I doing if ilm not being. Both are verbs.

You are actually doing. One of my yoga teachers once told me when you are doing an asana (pose) you must BE in the pose, not DO it. Which at the time I didn't understand and I contemplated so much time when it finally clicked. It's such a subtle difference that only a really sharp awareness can grasp.

[Princess Arabia]

8 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Also now

Ok, so now and then is the same thing. Ok, learn something new everyday. Every now and then I do, sorry every now I do, every then I do, same meaning which one should I use. Screw it i'll use both every now then I learn something new. Hehe

[ExploringReality]

If it's all empty, why are you still talking?

[ExploringReality]

@Princess Arabia

Basically the present moment isn't confined to linear time, past, present, future. The present moment is the beingness of Reality. And it's infinite. This moment right now, no matter where on earth or space, is the same now moment of existence because there is only One. It just appears linear within the dream of physical reality, but it's the same moment from a different point of view. Like a TV, all the channels are simultaneously co existing 

Edited May 8 by ExploringReality

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, inFlow said:

You are actually doing. One of my yoga teachers once told me when you are doing an asana (pose) you must BE in the pose, not DO it. Which at the time I didn't understand and I contemplated so much time when it finally clicked. It's such a subtle difference that only a really sharp awareness can grasp.

If I'm sitting in silence, I'm still doing something. If I'm being a jerk, I'm still being something. What does "just be" mean. How does one "just be" is the question. As far as I'm concerned I can only be.

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, ExploringReality said:

@Princess Arabia

Basically the present moment isn't confined to linear time, past, present, future. The present moment is the beingness of Reality. And it's infinite. This moment right now, no matter where on earth or space, is the same now moment of existence because there is only One.

As far as I'm concerned there is no present moment because present moment suggests time. Now implies a then and present implies a past and moment implies another moment. It is simply timeless.

[Princess Arabia]

6 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

If it's all empty, why are you still talking?

Talking empty words. I'm not talking, do you hear words.

[ExploringReality]

13 hours ago, Princess Arabia said:

I don't get it. This is planet Earth. We are here living lives. We get up go to work pay our bills, go to school, learn trades and skills, communicate, hang out, go to bars, have sex, do pick-up, put on make-up, eat dinner, sleep, buy clothes, go on forums, watch TV and movies, talk to the neighbors, worry about everything, be addicted to everything and fear everything.

OK, those are just ordinary mundane things that we do on a day-to-day basis along with other stuff. Now, the question is, with all this Spirituality stuff, opening to the cosmos, recognizing the true self, staying present, be in the now, doing psychedelics, seeking truth, learning about consciousness, reality, God, etcrtcetc, where is it leading you. (don't get me wrong I love this stuff too and i will keep doing it, but for it's own sake like I love to cook and eat and decorate).

I'm not asking rhetorically, I'm asking for literal answers. What are you trying to accomplish, seriously. I stated mine, because I love it for it's own sake but not trying to get anywhere other than for it's effects. Just like cooking, the effects from that is doing art and turning something into something else and being creative and seeing how a potato turns into potato hash. Etc. 

I still have to work to buy the potatoes and stove and then I shit it out and pee out the water I drank. Meditation might make me calmer for the day and sitting in silence might feel good in the moment. But for the end result, what is it. Where am I going, what am I becoming in the long run and to end up where. I still am on planet earth doing worldly things and on this forum typing words everyday and out in nature enjoying the sun. But what then, I'm going to get old and die just like all of you so where are you all trying to get to if it's not to get old and die and end up in the grave. If that's not going to happen and I'm just imagining all this and dreaming all this and nothing is real and there's just what's happening and appearing, where am I going still. Where are you going and what will you get from all your spiritual endeavors in the long run. That's the question.

These are your core assumptions. That's okay, but I suggest you start there, self inquire into your entire framing, wording and deeply held beliefs. Question yourself, try to prove yourself wrong and step in the unknown. Keep questioning, great! But question your own skepticism and questioning framework 

[ExploringReality]

@Princess Arabia the present moment is timeless is the point your missing, actually the only point. Of course duality is inherently inseparable from non Duality, but don't confuse relative with Absolute. Don't conflate the Absolute with duality even tho they are one, there is the little one and the big One. Paradoxically. Reality is Paradoxical in nature is the reason you are stuck at the level of words.

[ExploringReality]

@Princess Arabia

You are a mental gymnastics performer. Jumping through all sorts of hoops rather than burning your ignorance and dogmatic attitude.

[ExploringReality]

@Princess Arabia

Time is the moving image of eternity -Plato

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, ExploringReality said:

Paradoxically. Reality is Paradoxical in nature is the reason you are stuck at the level of words.

What are you using to communicate. Words. From knowledge. From the past, The past doesn't exist in the timeless so everyone is stuck at the level of words including yourself. Words is all we have but I'm trying to get as close as possible to what I'm trying to relate. 

[ExploringReality]

@Princess Arabia No self, no truth, no dream, but you still typed that. Why?

Edited May 8 by ExploringReality

[Princess Arabia]

1 minute ago, ExploringReality said:

@Princess Arabia

Time is the moving image of eternity -Plato

Time is thought. Without thought there is no time. Go to sleep and see if there is conscious time or thought. Neither. Boom, wake up and there is thought and time again. Get list in what you're doing without thought and time ceases.

[ExploringReality]

If words are all you have, then silence is already closer than your next sentence.

[ExploringReality]

@Princess Arabia all of it is happening in a larger context is what you don't see. Time is relative. There is only this present moment no matter what's going on within it. From the macro to the micro

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

@Princess Arabia No self, no truth, no dream, but you still typed that. Why?

Self is everything, truth is everything, dream is not happening. These words typed themselves. Ask me how I typed them, ask me how it's done, ask me how i learnt how to move my hands I couldn't tell you because I'm not doing it. Why I typed them, a response to reading your words. Energy responds to energy,

[Princess Arabia]

2 minutes ago, ExploringReality said:

@Princess Arabia all of it is happening in a larger context is what you don't see. Time is relative. There is only this present moment no matter what's going on within it. From the macro to the micro

There is nothing going on within a moment. "Larger context" is a measurement and the timeless cannot be measured. All you're talking about is within the dream. The dream of separation, context, relativity macro and micro. Nice stories and entertaining to read but it's all not happening without an observer which is the dreamer,

[Reciprocality]

I'm trying to go back to a state of mind where I don't believe that I know anything.

[Princess Arabia]

Just now, Reciprocality said:

I'm trying to go back to a state of mind where I don't believe that I know anything.

Jesus, I had to process that for like 5mins. Even when you're being simple, it's still sounds complicated. You're very complex in your thought patterns. Must be exciting living in your head. Hehe