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Anthropic Principle Makes No Sense of Perfection

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Scientists say, "Oh the only reason why we're in this universe and not some other universe is because this universe is capable of harboring life as opposed to some other universe." 

Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. That would explain things if we were some primitive life form with basic "consciousness" and in life there would be nothing to do but to move (big maybe) and witness things (Hell, I doubt in this case even eating and shitting would be neccessary) . However, it doesn't explain how this universe is not only finetuned for life, but for such advanced technology (the thing that actually allows us to thrive). Yeah, bro, it's totally because of anthropic principle that I'm typing this on a device capable of sending information across the globe. Why am I a human as opposed to some dumber animal freezing out in the cold  and am instead typing this on a warm cozy bed? "Uuh.. anthropic principle, bro. If you weren't human you wouldn't be able to have this kind of thought."  

Ridiculous.

 

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This is happening because in the reality was this potential, as we can see. 

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Anthropic principle says that we observe the universe because it exists in a way we can observe it, it's kind of a truism.

WAP (Weak Anthropic Principle) attributes nothing special to the fact we can observe the universe, it just is this way. SAP (Strong Anthropic Principle) however does, and have different interpretations - depending on what the reason of the universe being this way is attributed to. 

  • Teleological (purposeful design - GOD?)
  • Participatory (Quantum Mechanics - observation is required for reality to collapse into it's present state)
  • Cosmological Necessity 

The final one brings up a great thought-experiment. Can a universe exist with an observer observing it? Nothing denies the possibility, however once you observe it, then it no longer is a universe without an observer, a paradox. We can not know neither whether it has existed before we observed such a universe, or not. IF we could enter it then we could study the phenomena and discern its' physical laws, but that still would not be 100% proof (especially since we can't know if it doesn't have an observer already, the same way we are not sure if aliens exist or not yet in our galaxy)

Furthermore when you think about it, the probability that the universe would be the way it is in the present moment - is statistically zero. Infinitely small, yet it still is here and we can observe it. Had one or two factors been different, we may not even be here at all. Science constantly studies how we came to be here, but I believe this quest has no conclusion. There will always be holes in the models it builds, perhaps because a model can only be so much.

I wonder if this question suits this sub-forum or the intellectual one better.

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