Posted August 12, 2024 (edited) “If you’re in a dream at night and there are thousands of people starving, there are two ways you can stop their hunger. One is that, in the dream, you can try to feed them all, but the second is you can wake up, and that will end their suffering immediately. But they’re both right; they’re both true.“ This is Ken Wilber at his best. I have no issue with idealism and spirituality. I’ve had my fair share of „awakening“ experiences over the years, and I’m not going to deny their reality. But it’s refreshing to see someone acknowledge the irreducible value and reality of life, rather than just programmatically sticking to the spiritual side of the debate (although, as a good Nietzschean, I must, of course, be just as ride-or-die with life as you idealists are with spirituality). Edited August 12, 2024 by Nilsi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 12, 2024 Looks like Jamie Wheal asking the question. Makes sense that he would have been influenced by Wilber. "Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay. And it goes On and On, On and On" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13, 2024 Amazing. Wilber is intensely passionate about his work. Thanks for sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13, 2024 13 hours ago, aurum said: Looks like Jamie Wheal asking the question. Makes sense that he would have been influenced by Wilber. Yes, and decades later, he delivered the most intelligent and poignant critique of Wilber. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve shared this interview here over the years, but it remains as fresh and relevant as ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13, 2024 5 hours ago, Nilsi said: Yes, and decades later, he delivered the most intelligent and poignant critique of Wilber. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve shared this interview here over the years, but it remains as fresh and relevant as ever. He makes some decent points. "Finding your reason can be so deceiving, a subliminal place. I will not break, 'cause I've been riding the curves of these infinity words and so I'll be on my way. I will not stay. And it goes On and On, On and On" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 13, 2024 I became shocked when he was explaining the results he got about applying Integral Theory on business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
