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Islam is not a peaceful religion.

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Its a breath of fresh air for the uninformed who are just peddled self loathing hate and white man bad rhetoric, to learn that slavery was a wide spread scourge on the planet not uniquely done by “White people” and the fact that Britain played a major role in ending it. I’d add that other details should also be acknowledged for the full picture to avoid simplistic conclusions. It’s good the commentary noted how abolition wasn’t solely moral but incentivised by economics / self interest.

The bottom line of businessmen and monied elites seemed to coincide along moral lines, just like today. The overlap between the Industrial Revolution and the abolition of slavery points to economics as also being a factor behind ending slavery as the transition from an agrarian economy to an industrial one occurred. Theres a complex interplay of economics, morality, and technological advancement driving changes. 

The American slave trade, being the most recent large-scale example of slavery in the West, has disproportionately shaped our perception of slavery as a whole. Its particularly brutal and racially-driven nature has been projected onto historical slavery practices worldwide. We think how they practiced it is how everyone else practiced it. While all forms of slavery are inherently disgusting, the American system was uniquely severe in many aspects, distinguishing it from others.

From Chat gpt:

“Islamic slavery differed from the Atlantic slave trade, being generally less oppressive. It wasn't racially based and offered more rights, integration, and social mobility. Slaves had legal protections under Sharia law, including property ownership and access to justice. There are cases of slaves winning cases against masters and becoming wealthy merchants. Manumission was also encouraged (freeing of slaves).

Prophet Muhammad - “Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has put them under your command. So whoever has a brother under his command should feed him of what he eats and dress him of what he wears.”

About Eunuchs  - they weren’t just used in Islamic societies but globally including in Europe. Christian regions such as the Byzantine and Balkans were a source of eunuchs as it was culturally accepted and practiced there including in Africa and central/East Asia. Castration wasn’t permitted in Islamic Sharia ruling and didn’t occur within Islamic jurisdiction or societies - eunuchs were  bought from regions partaking in the practice even predating Islam. Historically, eunuchs were trusted and integral members of households of royalty and kings due to their inability to produce heirs. They held positions of trust within the royal court, especially in the roles involving close contact with the royal family which raised them to a certain status compared to other slaves.''

As for the guy in the last video: he explains that the many groups fighting each other are Muslim, then conflates the fact that they’re Muslim as the main reason they’re fighting - attributing Islam as inherently violent. So when Muslims fight, it's because of their religion, but when Christians spent thirty years turning Central Europe into a blood-bath in the 30 years war as just one example - thats just politics as usual. Europeans, Christians, Muslims and Asians all fought against and within each other, so it isn’t uniquely a creed thing, just a human thing.

 

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