It is quite clear what is (at least) possible without using steroids

[CosmicExplorer]

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Edited March 26, 2024 by CosmicExplorer

[Schizophonia]

3 hours ago, CosmicExplorer said:

Some pics doesn't work so I'm reuploading them here

Fantastic, nothing to do with monsters of the modern era on massives dosages of sub-derivatives of 19nor, insulin, HGH...
Real strong men 👍

[Applegarden8]

If you want some extraordinary qualities of the body, why not learn some advanced form of Isha Hatha yoga? You will also get the internal qualities which are even more important.

[Schizophonia]

A "discord friend" has developped a terrible chronic insomnia because of a trenbolone cure. 

I believe it's probably still in the tricyclics/benzodiazepines/adaptogens loop.

In fact, perhaps only certain steroids which do not aromatize too much and are not very stimulating (nandrolone, DHT derivatives, etc.) will not particularly cause insomnia.
Even testosterone will give you terrible insomnia unless you suppress massively aromatase and feel like you've become an old man.

Edited April 21, 2024 by Schizophonia

[Schizophonia]

Even very high doses of testosterone will suppress melatonin and destroy certain organs after a few years.

 

Edited April 21, 2024 by Schizophonia