Truth Addict

There is ultimately no hell. There is only you creating hell (which is an illusion) by resisting heaven (which is what you are, the Truth).

@Bryanbrax The point of the ride is the ride. You're probably between 16 and 20 years old. These kinds of thoughts are quite normal. You're now in for a hell of a ride, hang on tight, there will be a lot of obstacles on the road. But you will eventually come out stronger and happier. Trust yourself.

Guys, you're still arguing with Leo about the obvious. Just take back authority for your life, and stop listening to anyone. You're creating your own chains. Be free.

@Identity Well, why else do you think dancing and singing exit? Express, and release.

Kind of. But it's still a limited world-view. @Serotoninluv was great at explaining that to me. Thanks man!

@Nahm Man! You're an artist! ❤️

@ajasatya If the ego cares about morality, then God also cares about it too. Since the ego is just a part of God. Yes, morality is not a fundamental thing, it's only important for the ego, because it makes it feel at home by being similar to other egos. In a sense, some animal species have morality, since they live in herds and are basically the same. When I say God does not care about the morality of the mortals, I mean that you're free to do anything you want. It's a call for emotions, for the heart, for authenticity, to break free of the chains of the mind. Being inauthentic is the ego-mind's business. It requires transcendence of the mind to be able to get this. God does not lie, why would it? God is authentic. It's just being what it is. It doesn't lie because it's afraid of some morality that it holds, but rather because it's fearless to say the truth. Only the ego lies and manipulates. Look at religion, trying to force morality for centuries. Contemplate how good that is/was. Forcing morality does not work. That's what I was trying to point out to you and Shin and abrakamowse. You wanted people to act in certain ways during their awakenings, according to your imagination. I just pointed out that that's imagination. You can keep your imagination going, it's none of my business. But like you said, we're here to learn, and I had to play my part in this. The ultimate morality is no-morality. It's just consciousness and authenticity. It's the devil that is unconscious and inauthentic. But it's also God unrealised. It's tricky and cannot be communicated, but I believe you know what I'm talking about. And as for your last three paragraphs, I agree. I wasn't even arguing with you. I said that these kinds of arguments are untenable. I just pointed out some stuff, and you got defensive for whatever reason, ignored all my points, and then shifted the direction of the discussion into a discussion about semantics. Then I had to clarify, I hope we're on the same page by now.

That's still way far from what Leo is trying to communicate. You are all still operating from the realm of duality and otherness, while he's always stressing the importance of one's subjective experience. It's not really about 5-MeO or Ramana or anything else. It's all about you. It always was. It starts with you and ends with you. Stop looking for answers outwardly, and start looking inwardly. That's what he's saying, but good luck with trying to communicate tier two insights with a tier one person (Garuda). You can never be free while having a guru. The ultimate God is no-God.

@Shin That's okay too. @Preetom Could also be God-realised already.

@ajasatya I didn't say that either. But language has its limits. Are you aware of that? Well, that's just your story, not truth, since there's no 'we' to begin with. You see? We could keep linguistically masturbate on God for years without ever arriving at anything. You could have just agreed that morality is an illusion. But no, you had to show your wisdom. That's okay, I'm just making you aware of it.

@Shin I don't know. I am. I'm speaking directly from source. @ajasatya There's no escaping this problem. Your earlier post sounds similar, but you forgive yourself and ignore your ignorance so easily.

Muslim scholars have created a similar system regarding the sayings of Mohammed. They have classified his sayings into degrees of reliability, depending on the reliability of the sources. But there's still a bug in that system. Because what defines the reliability of the ones who judge the sources? It all comes back to the scholars in the end. And why should anyone trust them? What is the level of their reliability? They said consensus, but they disagree a lot. It's just groundless assumptions. My point is, scholars cannot be trusted, and I'm not sure the lineage can be trusted either. Since I believe there are many disagreements on the lineages of enlightened gurus.

@ajasatya @Shin @abrakamowse Actually, God is arrogant, consciously arrogant. That's its nature. Only the ego can be humbled, and dissolve to be more accurate, when God reveals itself. God does not care about the morality of the mortals. God can also be humble, since it's all loving.

Two days left and exams will end. I don't feel anything about it. But I feel a little bit limited right now, and that I will have more freedom afterwards. I'm now awake in the middle of the night, listening to some music before starting to study. That's heavenly! ❤️

No. I'm not a native speaker. This is the truff ?

I don't know what that even means.

@Yannik Allow, stop resisting. Observe from distance, don't get caught up. Break down whatever seems to be the problem to simpler and smaller portions. And work each portion alone. @Nahm helped me once with a similar problem. Maybe he could say something here.

@DrewNows True happiness has no definition.

@Hellspeed You can't force happiness. That's neurotic.

@xthebentnecklady By dissolving the shadow.

@Matt8800 ? It's much more simpler than that. Whatever you think/believe becomes reality for you. If you believe that gnosis is reliable, it becomes reliable. If you believe it isn't, it doesn't. Thought is a sneaky S.O.B. And you can't even argue against this, because I already know/believe that it's true ??

@Enlightenment I meant the sperms. We, humans, don't care for anything that is not relevant to our survival. Anti-natalism is pure ego. It stems either from moralistic opinions which are grounded in ego, which is groundless. Or a desire for better survival, which is selfish, and also groundless. The question only has value to us because it affects our survival.

@d0ornokey I'm sorry, I can't hurt a plant for my own amusement and experimentations.

@Matt8800 Okay, thanks for explaining. But isn't the word "real" itself a judgement, and therefore an interpretation? What is the difference between real and unreal anyway? Why does it matter to us to say that direct experience is real and all other things are not? Is there a deeper dynamic here? The map is not the territory, but isn't it? I mean thoughts are happening inside awareness, right? What I want to say is that, yes, direct experience is real in the present moment, and only in the present moment. After that, it becomes a memory, and therefore cannot be trusted, because what do we call it when we trust a thought? A belief, of course. So, eventually, there is no difference between belief and direct experience in the sense that you're presenting here. They are the same thing in the present moment/awareness. Only difference is that direct experience gives something that I call "personal thoughts", and beliefs are rather just some "external thoughts". So, to be more accurate, we could say that the present moment/awareness is all that there is, whether with or without interpretation/maps. What do you think? @Serotoninluv Leo would say 5-MeO-DMT ?

Why doesn't anybody care for the death of billions of other potential human lives? Just saying. (The answer might just give you THE answer)