Nevon
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Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Im at this point if u ask me to think of myself, my awareness instantly pointed to this direct presence experience,this is it, its not my face, my image, this is my honest answer, this is exactly what i think i am, stop denying my answer -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The image in my mind is that they see a human being , my face, my body, my appearance -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
They see a person, my human body -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've been doing contemplative and spiritual practice for about 10 years, and I do have some degree of realization. I'm not claiming full enlightenment or perfect understanding. The reason I'm asking is because there are still aspects of Leo's teaching that I haven't fully seen for myself,especially the claim that I'm not fundamentally a biological being. So I'm not arguing from certainty. I'm asking from the edge of my own realization. If you've realized what Leo is pointing to, I'd appreciate an explanation rather than being told I'm not taking it seriously. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm practicing Leo contemplative exercises on realizing God-consciousness. One of his central claims is that "you are not a biological being" and that "being biological" is an idea that should be questioned or dropped during contemplation. I'm taking this practice seriously, but this is the part I struggle with. I genuinely don't understand how to see through the idea that I'm not a biological organism. I'm not trying to argue or troll anyone. I'm asking whether someone who understands this teaching can explain why. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What's wrong having an identity? even Leo keep saying over and over again "i am god" When i go into a classroom, im seeing a classroom, a field of classroom appear in my first person view, I see my entire screen morph into a classroom And im talking about consciousness in absolute perspective I think the problem is that you are not operating on my level, im not sure what type of game you are playing, stop trying to confuse yourself by keep thinking who you really are, just shut up and observe raw reality as it is ,without a filter of concept and ideas. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Dude im talking about consciousness in absolute perspective, You seem confusing 2 different levels of reality. I'm talking about the absolute nature of experience, not how to behave in society,from the absolute perspective, everything appears within the same consciousness, so the distinction between "me" and "chair" its just something you made up from your mind From the relative perspective, there are still body, laws, and social consequences. Realizing nonduality doesn't erase relative reality. It simply means that, at a deeper level, all distinctions arise within the same field of awareness. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Who say that? Why not everything i perceive is me, for example you are looking at chair, that chair is happening in your field, hence that chair is you, if you say the chair isn't you, mean you are imagine a distinction to saperate yourself with a chair -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In my presence experience experience there is nothing inside of me bruh, everything its on the interface, this bubble of first person experience, even when you told me to think of myself, next thought arise within my field pointing "i am this field" . The identity im holding to, is not in deep down, its very obvious, right now this moment that's happening to me, this colourful field of screen its illuminating itself U need to come out point to counter why my answer isn't correct, otherwise it's gonna be the same answer over and over again -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No no no some misunderstanding going on here 1)im not picturing myself as a image of a field, im not assuming im a field, the field did not appear on my mind ,to describe what am i, it doesn't require thinking a field. 2)when i say field,what i really mean is this entire field of reality that is happening to me right now,this first person experience, this physical reality is me So when you ask me to describe myself,im describing my direct first person experience, it doesnt require me to think or assume myself of something abstract image, im this field of reality. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why a field cannot be me? This field is happening to me, ever since i came out of existance, this field it's been here the entire time its undeniable -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
If i strip away the idea of consciousness, im not able to pin point on myself, im genuinely clueless, I don't know. If im force to pin point on myself, i am this entire field that is happening to me right now. This field is me. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I will replying bit by bit whenever i free Lets continue the inquiry, we will take it step by step Consciousness is this entire field that is here and now and it's happening to me, and it's aware of itself, everything that is happening within my field is consciousness, for example sound,visual,feeling,sensation Based on direct experience, consciousness is NOT happening within my mind, the idea of consciousness happening within my mind is just a idea need to be drop. -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Why are you assuming im gaving up? Im gonna reply you later,im actually working right now,i will reply you as soon as i left my work place -
Nevon replied to Nevon's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I see where you going, im have been through this over and over again for the past 10 year Im saying im this field of experience= consciousness and there is a body which is also consciousness , even if u use samurai katana chop me into pieces, my body may disappear, but my consciousness is still here eternally, it just light out (consciousness morphing into another state)
