Nevon

As per title, im doing guide exersice realizing im god, yes in this absolute presence experience it indeed became very strange, its just a mysterious divine bubble of screen appear out of nowhere, but again my logical mind just couldn't let go the idea of im was born and im a biological being,my mind came out alot of reason to convince me i was born for example what if my mom show me a video that i came out from her virgina, isn't that a concrete proof that i was born? But again in my absolute presence experience i do not have the experience being born, im only notice my entire experience just mysteriously appear, in Leo guided exersice works are we suppose to deny past even exist? Although we seems like did live through the past. Pls help me understand this

Im at this point if u ask me to think of myself, my awareness instantly pointed to this direct presence experience,this is it, its not my face, my image, this is my honest answer, this is exactly what i think i am, stop denying my answer

The image in my mind is that they see a human being , my face, my body, my appearance

They see a person, my human body

I've been doing contemplative and spiritual practice for about 10 years, and I do have some degree of realization. I'm not claiming full enlightenment or perfect understanding. The reason I'm asking is because there are still aspects of Leo's teaching that I haven't fully seen for myself,especially the claim that I'm not fundamentally a biological being. So I'm not arguing from certainty. I'm asking from the edge of my own realization. If you've realized what Leo is pointing to, I'd appreciate an explanation rather than being told I'm not taking it seriously.

I'm practicing Leo contemplative exercises on realizing God-consciousness. One of his central claims is that "you are not a biological being" and that "being biological" is an idea that should be questioned or dropped during contemplation. I'm taking this practice seriously, but this is the part I struggle with. I genuinely don't understand how to see through the idea that I'm not a biological organism. I'm not trying to argue or troll anyone. I'm asking whether someone who understands this teaching can explain why.

What's wrong having an identity? even Leo keep saying over and over again "i am god" When i go into a classroom, im seeing a classroom, a field of classroom appear in my first person view, I see my entire screen morph into a classroom And im talking about consciousness in absolute perspective I think the problem is that you are not operating on my level, im not sure what type of game you are playing, stop trying to confuse yourself by keep thinking who you really are, just shut up and observe raw reality as it is ,without a filter of concept and ideas.

Dude im talking about consciousness in absolute perspective, You seem confusing 2 different levels of reality. I'm talking about the absolute nature of experience, not how to behave in society,from the absolute perspective, everything appears within the same consciousness, so the distinction between "me" and "chair" its just something you made up from your mind From the relative perspective, there are still body, laws, and social consequences. Realizing nonduality doesn't erase relative reality. It simply means that, at a deeper level, all distinctions arise within the same field of awareness.

Who say that? Why not everything i perceive is me, for example you are looking at chair, that chair is happening in your field, hence that chair is you, if you say the chair isn't you, mean you are imagine a distinction to saperate yourself with a chair

In my presence experience experience there is nothing inside of me bruh, everything its on the interface, this bubble of first person experience, even when you told me to think of myself, next thought arise within my field pointing "i am this field" . The identity im holding to, is not in deep down, its very obvious, right now this moment that's happening to me, this colourful field of screen its illuminating itself U need to come out point to counter why my answer isn't correct, otherwise it's gonna be the same answer over and over again

No no no some misunderstanding going on here 1)im not picturing myself as a image of a field, im not assuming im a field, the field did not appear on my mind ,to describe what am i, it doesn't require thinking a field. 2)when i say field,what i really mean is this entire field of reality that is happening to me right now,this first person experience, this physical reality is me So when you ask me to describe myself,im describing my direct first person experience, it doesnt require me to think or assume myself of something abstract image, im this field of reality.

Why a field cannot be me? This field is happening to me, ever since i came out of existance, this field it's been here the entire time its undeniable

If i strip away the idea of consciousness, im not able to pin point on myself, im genuinely clueless, I don't know. If im force to pin point on myself, i am this entire field that is happening to me right now. This field is me.

I will replying bit by bit whenever i free Lets continue the inquiry, we will take it step by step Consciousness is this entire field that is here and now and it's happening to me, and it's aware of itself, everything that is happening within my field is consciousness, for example sound,visual,feeling,sensation Based on direct experience, consciousness is NOT happening within my mind, the idea of consciousness happening within my mind is just a idea need to be drop.

Why are you assuming im gaving up? Im gonna reply you later,im actually working right now,i will reply you as soon as i left my work place

I see where you going, im have been through this over and over again for the past 10 year Im saying im this field of experience= consciousness and there is a body which is also consciousness , even if u use samurai katana chop me into pieces, my body may disappear, but my consciousness is still here eternally, it just light out (consciousness morphing into another state)

Im not trying to belief im some sort of entity, im at this stage pretty much drop down alot of concept and belief system, im operate through direct experience, if you ask me what am i, i only can observe what is happening right now and tell you base on my direct experience So what am i? ,im this field of existance and there's a body, this is my answer

In my presence experience, there is no such thing as "behind" everything it just like a desktop interface, flip inside out, Are you talking about outside of the bubble?

At my current stage, honestly i don't know,i can go very radical like strips away all the idea and concepts, only left this raw reality without concepts, I belief im this reality, entire field of existance.

Right now im at this stage of identifying my entire experience as consciousness My ego sense of self it just a abstract concept,im not able to pin point where is it, And i notice how mysterious of consciousness able to do, im realize my reality that constantly morphing into different experience, real life waking state, dream state, deep sleep state, psychedelic state, and others, it's just constantly shifting into different experience,and this "thing" has no beginning and no end, its always here and now, even if i my physical body die, my consciousness light out, it just consciousness morphing into another state Im noticing im eternal being, im god, god can literally imagine anything into existence, just take a look at dream state But again, i look at myself, i also noticing im this body, im unable to deny im not this body, whatever idea is it , it doesnt change the fact that im stuck with this body,im forced to go though this human experience , it feel very biological to me.

According to leo works, the idea of your entire quote need to be strips as well, it's just a concept and belief, the distinction of space and body its just illusion, if you look closely it's actually one unified field.

I already strips away the idea my existence generate from my head What I'm saying is, when i look at my hand or body,what if i cut open it and it has flesh and bone,its seem very biological too me,and to strip away the idea that im not a biological being it contradict from what i actually see.

After all these years im still deeply confuse, after watching the why the brain doesn't exist episode Leo claim consciousness doesn't take place inside the brain, there is no evidence Based on my direct experience,yes indeed it doesnt take place inside the brain, existance just somehow appear,or maybe we should say my existance itself is being manifested But I need some answers Do our brain has connection to the consciousness? If someone hit my skull with a hammer, i definitely gonna lost consciousness right? It somehow contradict the idea of our existance doesn't take place in the brain Any expert mind share some thoughts?

I had these very intense desire to understand what reality it's all about, i took ketamine and meditate , i came to a state where my belief system was crushed, it open up a possibility everything i knew it's just ideas and concept and it could be wrong, and here comes the big question, what is the ultimate Truth? I put my focus on what is really going on right now, i came to the conclusion, it's only an appearance and sensation,bubble of consciousness constantly shape shifting into different motion that play out story of my life , how is this even possible? later on i having a full blown energy rising shit going on,that moment i had a strong sense of my entire reality its made up of consciousness and i realize god decide to manifest my entire reality this is why im having this first person experience

Has anyone notice that in Reality,Everything it's just appearing and disappearing within the bubble of consciousness,including thoughts,sensation,visual,sound.. literally everything , include my whole existence are appearing and disappearing every single day, it's so strange to interpretate reality in direct experience, I look at my direct experience and trying hard to squeeze the juice out, this is what i get There is only this "screen" happening to me and everything in this "screen" appears and dissapear, including the screen itself . Im this process of appearing and disappearing, isn't that so strange, this left a big question mark on my mind.