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Women are flakey in general even with amazing game girls will flake thats a part of the game just accept how it is...

@Razard86 I said you need mentor but you go beyond it Thats the thing being a product of people you interacted with no wonder everyones fucked ? going outside yourself to be something probably the worst and most harming thing there is to myself as an ego..

Thats a tough pill to swallow realizing that you actually dont want things you say you do, otherwise you wont be having same problem over and over, you would be in that thing solving it from the inside...

@Razard86 I think he is, everybody whos in their own leauge of something..and made path for others to follow and is insanely creative is apex from my understanding, which is limited in this... I imagine apex male as someone whos made everything possible in their own way and now textbooks and people learn from him but he didnt learn from nobody he had mentors but they just made him understand the ways which he made 1000 better...

@Razard86 Thanks for indepth answer...only thing thats missing is apex male whos above alfa ?

Why are you starting multiple same threads which one is main one?

@Razard86 Alright but then delete this forum because if we wont make distinction then there is no somebody whos improving and somebody whos stagnating there is no someone winning or someone losing... We can just keep meditation section ? Its not a game when alfa comes and takes what you wanted or got that job you wanted right? Or you typing this from a cave ? im not being funny

@Razard86 you are describing fake alfas, real alfas love themselves and appreciate life...

Alfa man is someone going after what they want relentlessly and not giving a f ,just pushing until he's getting that thing... Being alfa for girls is fail and proving yourself to others is fail...

You start conversation with another girl about how some girl showed your arm and you didnt like that, but you like it in intimate situation ? something like that...in perfect wolrd where you dont react to stuff...

You reject yourself the moment you say omg she attractive shes 9/10 taller than me... And you reject yourself way before you approached her every time you percieve something that doesnt come from who you are but from outside world and how outside word percives it and you follow that instead follow your perception... Too complicated to explain in one post.. You can toughen it up but you will always feel not worthy and run from that and pretend to be something you are not, you are run by outside word... This is too deep thats why most advices dont ever work ?

Those people will badmouth you whenever they got the chance i would avoid them, too much of a red flag for me.. Also this reminds me of someone whos either narcissistic or so full of themselves that they must be right all the time, so they will even go againts what they said just to be right its funny ? And for them to be right you must be wrong...its a tug of war that you shouldnt play..

@JosephKnecht Now you ruined our game ?

@SQAAD Ok you came to conclusion that you must manipulate i choose that i wont manipulate and thats that its a choice... Im not looking for her to like me btw thats pointless thing to try to do stuff for them to like me... Look we all manipulate in some ways but im giving you ways that you do it less and its way better for resaults actually... You can find peple who will just listen and you talk ? If you have her in mind then you are losing from the start you look how to simp for her to like you which is really bad situation for you.. Having yourself in mind is the key You doubt because you dont understand game only pick up manipulation game...

@SQAAD Caring about being good is biggest manipulation of them all ?

@Danioover9000 for me manipulation is when someone doesnt want to do something and you make them do what you want, by some means or you think less of yourself so you need to hide behind something to manipulate... So i dont see how being influential is manipulation only if you force it on others ... Woman being attractive is manipulation then because when someone come in front of a woman shes manipulating him with her beauty or something ??

Why would you want to transcend sex ?

@SQAAD Its not manipulation if you ask directly for what you want no matter if she says no and you lose her.. I act and move how i made rules and ways how i want to move, its called my square, so im not manipulating im acting like i want to no matter if ill fuck or not ,fucking shouldnt be in my mind even, because thats not the point ,point is making moves and im judged how im making my moves nobody has this so you manipulate...even worse you have moves from another guy or people that will never work long term is really bad... Its another thing that you look for a girl to fuck her to get something from her i dont even think about her im thinking what im gonna do and ill be direct in what im doing and moving where i want it to go and she has every right to say no based on her no im moving on another or see what shes willing to give(no manipulation)... Ofcourse im not there im actually working on it right now and catching myself...

@SQAAD I mean you have to manipulate because you either with wrong people(not compatible) or you dont produce enough value for others so they dont care about your ways... Becoming a value for yourself and telling them how things are upfront like telling girls you see other girls upfront and all the things she should know so there is no need to manipulate if she doesnt like your ways you get rid of her... Manipulation is easy way out of your problems so they are instant or forcing...

What meaning you give to things will give it experience if you react of minds meaning that is given to you and you dont create them for yourself then your parents media etc. wins and you just react of poor fundation... Your mind will give "bad" meaning to this message too so it can continue lock you in your ways beware..

@Razard86 No psychological need from anyone i meant...

Please be responsible dont mix anything with psychadelics they are powerful tools that need huge respect!

@Tyler Robinson Then i would be a superman i used to say everyone what was going inside me thats only temporary fix... Permenent fix is going inwards and depend on myself for everything where i dont need anything from anyone(still not there but its night and day what it was)

@Razard86 Yeah its a superpower when you nail it if there was no "material survival" that would be it ?

@Tyler Robinson You are making it about other people thats the whole problem why he feels like he cannot be themself... your advice is like give alchocholic more drink so he can feel happy again Hes codependent going to depend on mercy of others ?