NoSelfSelf

Someone who has game doesnt care what women does...

You dont know who you are, that makes you unsure of yourself ,which causes you to be stuck in one place that makes you depressed...

@integral i think its pointless to discuss its just mental masturbation my apology...

@integral you cant have high self esteem if you care if someone else has it or not...whats point in that queastion?

You cant have high self esteem if you judge women,world its not that simple...

@StarStruck first part you described what game is ?

@integral Because of your comment i understand why they cheat and not mad about it ?

@integral I strongly recommend it to watch first season not second. Thats why many who makes game about women and just want sex,will get in this situation because they didnt turn themselves into someone women want like drug(just like in that show)they are like Cooper if you watch you will see... You saying underperform someone with game is always on top of things you cant underperform if you know what you doing...

So you watched first season of Sex/Life on netflix?

Isnt that how average relationships are ,conning eachother to make it work ??

@meta_male thats more like it ? @StarStruck Ofcourse not, its just something that is always happening a power dynamic,you either on top or on the bottom,by the way you operate, if you make a game about the woman then she is your enemy someone you worship, trying to make sleep with you, if shes not doing what you want then like redpill you come on forum talk bad about women, because you are not vauling yourself by making her someone above its just is what it is..and its not forcing her to be on "bottom" its product of you being a man..

@StarStruck Didnt mean actually kneel ? but you figuratively kneeling by trying to be what she wants you to be,by treating her special,by manipulating to get into her pants,by letting her dictate the narrative,by wating her to like you its all like kneeling before Xerxis ?...

In what domain tho? Everything has its own system you need to crack...

@StarStruck Yes you are, for me its so obvious and from all your post combined you are doing it, like the last post about clubber girl you would go to a club do whatever it takes to get a chance, thats kneeling for pussy,you can choose to see it but okay if not im not here to force you to see it.

@StarStruck Yeah but see what you just did by saying not all girls fall for this type of guys,you kneeled before Xerxis to save your ass ? you value her more than yourself,this is it what im trying to say with what comes before all other principles...you are saying pussy is more valuable than me as a whole, where Leonidis payed with his life because he is before all things...

Most important before all is becoming a man and an individual who is self made internally,bypassing this everything else is worthless shaky and will crumble,gonna sell yourself for a woman resort to manipulation,simping etc. Great scene in the movie 300 is Leonidis refusing to kneel to Xerxis(or how its spelled) because he is standing on who he is as a man nothing can shake that, thats number 1!.

Enlightment cant be for anyone its for selected few...

Im curious how is this helping you to grow?

Waiting game=weak game

I mean if you now had it all whats the point? You think somewhere where i have it all it will be just all amazing,you will still have to maintain and work as hard as now...point is as cliche as it sounds,enjoying the journey enjoying the place you are right now, how you gonna crawl out of it,thats gonna make the end resault meaningful not just chasing it and getting it...every moment is whats matters end resault is just to look where you were to where you now... Edit:read it more in detail how do you know if you give everything to your kids thats gonna be good for them or not?thats just stuff you will never know,you can do best and it will be bad in their eyes... Journey and next step is what matters worrying and panicking is waste of time and life enjoyment...

@Chives99 You are just deluding yourself,your mind just gave you like a false sense of confidence, true confidence is outside of your comfortzone thats why learning game is so important so you dont get caught into outside world that influence your emotions and your mind not lying you so much your mind right now is like if you watched movie "The village"(you will get it if you watch) if not watch it to see how your mind is lying you and then giving you quick fixes to make you think you are up to something....cant cheat the game...

You guys try to cheat the game with push ups and "confidence mode" it wont work...

@Ross Labby Well,now i see that by also asking this queastion(coupled with added info) you are falling into category of having weak-mid game meaning you are potraying a role so you are 50|50 in your behaviour you are not creepy,weird you potray good behaviours 50% so that makes her want to keep you(not friend zone,grey area zone) but in return she will make you work hard for sex so shes running game on you, because you are not 100% you =weak game so its not her fault but she is using you because you dont know yourself,dont know how to commumicate yourself and not experienced in dating game it is what it is.You going or not going with friends doesnt matter she already know who you are.

Thats on you to decide,i declined that offer by one girl 3 times because you cant really do anything to move things when with her friends. The game of that situation is how you gonna like win over her friends(which is bs) or them seeing if you are the right guy for her,double edged sword but you shouldnt care and you need to see if thats best move on a chessboard for you...if you win friends that could be beneficial(which is tramp card you shouldnt need)...

Self deception series from Leo if you havent looked into,self deception is basis of human psyche...