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Those people will badmouth you whenever they got the chance i would avoid them, too much of a red flag for me.. Also this reminds me of someone whos either narcissistic or so full of themselves that they must be right all the time, so they will even go againts what they said just to be right its funny ? And for them to be right you must be wrong...its a tug of war that you shouldnt play..

@JosephKnecht Now you ruined our game ?

@SQAAD Ok you came to conclusion that you must manipulate i choose that i wont manipulate and thats that its a choice... Im not looking for her to like me btw thats pointless thing to try to do stuff for them to like me... Look we all manipulate in some ways but im giving you ways that you do it less and its way better for resaults actually... You can find peple who will just listen and you talk ? If you have her in mind then you are losing from the start you look how to simp for her to like you which is really bad situation for you.. Having yourself in mind is the key You doubt because you dont understand game only pick up manipulation game...

@SQAAD Caring about being good is biggest manipulation of them all ?

@Danioover9000 for me manipulation is when someone doesnt want to do something and you make them do what you want, by some means or you think less of yourself so you need to hide behind something to manipulate... So i dont see how being influential is manipulation only if you force it on others ... Woman being attractive is manipulation then because when someone come in front of a woman shes manipulating him with her beauty or something ??

Why would you want to transcend sex ?

@SQAAD Its not manipulation if you ask directly for what you want no matter if she says no and you lose her.. I act and move how i made rules and ways how i want to move, its called my square, so im not manipulating im acting like i want to no matter if ill fuck or not ,fucking shouldnt be in my mind even, because thats not the point ,point is making moves and im judged how im making my moves nobody has this so you manipulate...even worse you have moves from another guy or people that will never work long term is really bad... Its another thing that you look for a girl to fuck her to get something from her i dont even think about her im thinking what im gonna do and ill be direct in what im doing and moving where i want it to go and she has every right to say no based on her no im moving on another or see what shes willing to give(no manipulation)... Ofcourse im not there im actually working on it right now and catching myself...

@SQAAD I mean you have to manipulate because you either with wrong people(not compatible) or you dont produce enough value for others so they dont care about your ways... Becoming a value for yourself and telling them how things are upfront like telling girls you see other girls upfront and all the things she should know so there is no need to manipulate if she doesnt like your ways you get rid of her... Manipulation is easy way out of your problems so they are instant or forcing...

What meaning you give to things will give it experience if you react of minds meaning that is given to you and you dont create them for yourself then your parents media etc. wins and you just react of poor fundation... Your mind will give "bad" meaning to this message too so it can continue lock you in your ways beware..

@Razard86 No psychological need from anyone i meant...

Please be responsible dont mix anything with psychadelics they are powerful tools that need huge respect!

@Tyler Robinson Then i would be a superman i used to say everyone what was going inside me thats only temporary fix... Permenent fix is going inwards and depend on myself for everything where i dont need anything from anyone(still not there but its night and day what it was)

@Razard86 Yeah its a superpower when you nail it if there was no "material survival" that would be it ?

@Tyler Robinson You are making it about other people thats the whole problem why he feels like he cannot be themself... your advice is like give alchocholic more drink so he can feel happy again Hes codependent going to depend on mercy of others ?

@Tyler Robinson hows external things gonna help him This is deeper problem than communication or sharin ? His whole mind is in hell ive been there and im still somewhat in there but its a 360 degree change from all about outside to all about inside me!

Because you dont trust yourself when you dont trust yourself you depend on externals(codependent mind),like now you want our advice that you will depend on because you abandon yourself for advice ,so no matter how many experiences you have you will feel not good enough because confidence comes from trust in yourself and trust in yourself comes from independent thinking that you hold as absolute and sacrade to yourself... You have all this rules and theory that you depend on to succede with girls and they are not coming from you thats what you heard and now acting out.. Now you are depending from externals for validation self worth thats why you cant be yourself Basically lack of self belief(trust in you) is why you have this problem...

No its an excuse in disguise Being good with girls is being around them and build skill towards it... No matter how good your life is wont substitute for weak game...

@Molaric whats the point of your thread queastion then ?

By socializing with people who have substance. Average people are on the surface and you cant expect much from them(so just see them for what they are and see its not compatible) but sometimes you get surprised.. If you can have fun with yourself with those people then you are on the great path...

Who cares?

@Atb210201 No problem my phylosophy is better to lose her than myself so i wouldnt compromise that much...

@Federico del pueblo Understood ?

@Federico del pueblo how can you like her and she likes you from few minutes of interaction? How do you know whats happening in her life and why she said fuck off? What if she needs to go somewhere and you in her way? See my point?

@Atb210201 Im trying to save your relationship that is sinking faster than you think...you are your worst enemy keep being "concious" and she will keep disrespecting 2+2 thing...

@Atb210201 thats where you are messing up! you are not concious of relationship dynamic, you cant ever put more importance on her than on yourself ,thats what we call a simp and someone whos weak and pander for a woman and thats why she is acting like that! Its all on you, what is needed to be done to make things work(your job)(that you put in her hands not knowin) looking for anything outside yourself(your girlfriend) will make you lose yourself in her and now shes putting you in position to limit you and put expectations on you instead you putting expectations on her and leading the situation... shes also in your mind right now there is no room for you...thats all i can say from what you wrote...