NoSelfSelf

Exactly my point ,your objective truth is based on feelings (trauma respons) not actually you talking to women in real life. Even if you did ,you wouldnt have objective viewpoint since you have trauma respons. I make it about you because its you whos gonna make feelings turn into facts,nothing personal tho.You never look at you,you let world define you.Thaths how it usually is.All you do is turning away from yourself that's why there is no growth but just feelings and what you see turns into your reality. Im not dissmising everything, its just lets say 10% correct and you make that 10% into 100% based on a feeling.

@Sugarcoat My last point before i call it a day,this is what i was saying :his story is that he got rejected by few women,felt bad about it because he has no sense of self(that entails knowing himself on many levels). Then he saw black pill he attached those feelings of rejection to everything they said and now he is defined by it! Litterly hes black pill minion walking around because his feelings got validated by his experience of hurt.

There is no development if there are people needing black pill 😅

This is the reason why women love men. No complications its right here. Ta-da!

Well the more immature you are the more attraction for a guy is how "hot" she is. The more mature you get you are looking at the level of "hotness" matches the act/thinking.

Its not according to me, im looking at things how they function. If one sees a woman and gets all excited, its same as woman seeing a dress and gasps at its sight.

Well, defines means that what has happened in situation the individual thinks thats what he is.Yeah if woman does something one interpits it a certen way based on how he feels. Lets take red pill content or all that women are good for nothing videos. Individual who has no sense of self will take those videos and based on their experience attach emotions to those videos even though they havent experienced women cheating but they will take it as complete truth based on the feeling.That's how they got them they take the bad experiences and feelings and push it to individuals who can relate to them. All the threads on here are reactions based on relatable experiences and now those videos push them even further.They wont look at themselves as the problem because of so called proof based on their feelings. As of now i still cant explain it fully because i dont know it. I yet dont know the deeper mechanism,because deeper mechanism starts at so called core and im still studying it.

Key is what ones sees ,then one interpits it a certen way then one feels the emotion and that emotion defines the indovidual,so then in front a woman one feels like he cant do anything so act tottaly stupid without knowing why. Im looking to spread masculine message thanks.

Yes because when individual see's a woman and thinks she's beautiful or whatever,in that moment shes special which causes individual to feel a certen way and attach that thinking to the feeling which causes reaction.In reaction(being nervous etc.) one beats around the bush,being indirect,being unsure of itself because hes not in control of himself in that moment.Emotion of what individual sees defines them, because they dont stand on who they are(probably because they dont know themselves). Hope this makes sense.

Nothing have a nice day.

Im not emotional but i have emotions big difference.

That's the truth feminine will place emotions and things above themselves and i respect that,but i dont stand on it and wont give advice on it.

No need for disrespect,our worldviews differ thats all that is to it.

Thanks for clarifying, i cant help you i only give advice for masculine men, who put more worth into themselves than feminine activities.

You think like that because your self worth is low,so her attention is like a gods given gift to you. Okay you practiced move on.If she isnt for what you want, then there is no need to talk further, then keep in mind if you continue to talk shes leading you and now you have to work for what she wants you for,so now you have to work for a maybe to get what you want. Practice talking, but if you not practicing and keep talking to her then you will f yourself over, even if she gives you play.

Well it seems you wanted a hookup then all this hours of talk,cuddling,being there is because the wind and her leading the situation.That's why you havent gotten what you wanted and she will always move you to a friendzone ,if you not leading where you want it to go. It obvious to me from your thread you are just sponteniously doing things hoping something will happen well that strategy "works"(by work i mean you actually being on top of situation not situation dictating you being in reaction)sometimes,that's why its not optimal.

You have no leadership.

Its all in your head.

No i dont look it like me being a victim of "modern dating" its everything on me, all the accountability im placing on me because i dont care about getting women but being better me. Why would you place women as object of desire? Then judge yourself by the narrative and her stories ,when that all doesnt apply to one who can stimulate the emotions.How you stimulate the emotions? by being the experience she never felt before then you get like a drug in her veins.Every other guy is focused on women and modern dating,black pill,red pill that's precisely what makes you same like everybody else,no stimulation of her mind. By messing up i mean getting in my feelings,if i know im at my best at the moment and she saying no its okay it doesnt matter. Its more of not giving yourself a chance to even be the best you by not even focusing on all this bs about looks,money,status,modern women.

Being silent is worst for growth,you should talk alot ,but those that can talk alot should listen more.

Everything can be true under certen criteria so ofcourse looks matter but at the same time it doesnt. I messed up alot with what you call 9/10 in looks ,they would be so receptive at first but because i though they are beautiful, i found a way to sabotage it,so you can mess it up its happening more often than not.

I see decent point,another inner game point is seeing social enviroments differently by not being in one but you being the social enviroment.That's when you are completely locked in.Advanced one but good to see it in a bigger picture.

But your so called insticts are not there ,because you are actually a slave to a blackpill ideology,so you will mess up your "escalation"...game is so much deeper but yeah its only you stopping you ,same as believing that your looks is so important before you even open your mouth.But since you stand on your looks the way you talk will come from im not good looking. I can also say that "good" looks is actually a bad thing, so many times women will mask their attraction because she doesnt want to show her initial attraction, because she will defend it hard.Also she will act scared in a way, its like acting like shes tottaly not interested but she is. Also her personality will not be there because she doesnt wanna "mess up". Also when you look good she expects you to have great game right of the bat, because you are good looking so you must have good game immidietly(same logic as you) if you come of a little not so confident, she will see it as more of a weakness than "non attractive guy".While if you come of smooth it will hit harder because you are "not suppose" to be this confident with your words since you are short or whatever.

So you think you are ugly that's a shame,also even if she approaches you the way you handle the situation its whats most important.Doesnt matter how good looking you are, if you dont know what to do then nothing happens. If women throws at you you wouldnt know what to do.You will be busy checking out other guys worrying if somebody betterlooking will come which then begs a queastion do you like guys or women more? Ps:im not being mean its 100% reality of whats going on..

Its waste of time when you make game about women ofcourse ,that's how it is.When you make game about yourself ,then all this possibilities of growth shows, you are closed off right now because you dont love yourself,you love pussy more than yourself.