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That's the truth feminine will place emotions and things above themselves and i respect that,but i dont stand on it and wont give advice on it.

No need for disrespect,our worldviews differ thats all that is to it.

Thanks for clarifying, i cant help you i only give advice for masculine men, who put more worth into themselves than feminine activities.

You think like that because your self worth is low,so her attention is like a gods given gift to you. Okay you practiced move on.If she isnt for what you want, then there is no need to talk further, then keep in mind if you continue to talk shes leading you and now you have to work for what she wants you for,so now you have to work for a maybe to get what you want. Practice talking, but if you not practicing and keep talking to her then you will f yourself over, even if she gives you play.

Well it seems you wanted a hookup then all this hours of talk,cuddling,being there is because the wind and her leading the situation.That's why you havent gotten what you wanted and she will always move you to a friendzone ,if you not leading where you want it to go. It obvious to me from your thread you are just sponteniously doing things hoping something will happen well that strategy "works"(by work i mean you actually being on top of situation not situation dictating you being in reaction)sometimes,that's why its not optimal.

You have no leadership.

Its all in your head.

No i dont look it like me being a victim of "modern dating" its everything on me, all the accountability im placing on me because i dont care about getting women but being better me. Why would you place women as object of desire? Then judge yourself by the narrative and her stories ,when that all doesnt apply to one who can stimulate the emotions.How you stimulate the emotions? by being the experience she never felt before then you get like a drug in her veins.Every other guy is focused on women and modern dating,black pill,red pill that's precisely what makes you same like everybody else,no stimulation of her mind. By messing up i mean getting in my feelings,if i know im at my best at the moment and she saying no its okay it doesnt matter. Its more of not giving yourself a chance to even be the best you by not even focusing on all this bs about looks,money,status,modern women.

Being silent is worst for growth,you should talk alot ,but those that can talk alot should listen more.

Everything can be true under certen criteria so ofcourse looks matter but at the same time it doesnt. I messed up alot with what you call 9/10 in looks ,they would be so receptive at first but because i though they are beautiful, i found a way to sabotage it,so you can mess it up its happening more often than not.

I see decent point,another inner game point is seeing social enviroments differently by not being in one but you being the social enviroment.That's when you are completely locked in.Advanced one but good to see it in a bigger picture.

But your so called insticts are not there ,because you are actually a slave to a blackpill ideology,so you will mess up your "escalation"...game is so much deeper but yeah its only you stopping you ,same as believing that your looks is so important before you even open your mouth.But since you stand on your looks the way you talk will come from im not good looking. I can also say that "good" looks is actually a bad thing, so many times women will mask their attraction because she doesnt want to show her initial attraction, because she will defend it hard.Also she will act scared in a way, its like acting like shes tottaly not interested but she is. Also her personality will not be there because she doesnt wanna "mess up". Also when you look good she expects you to have great game right of the bat, because you are good looking so you must have good game immidietly(same logic as you) if you come of a little not so confident, she will see it as more of a weakness than "non attractive guy".While if you come of smooth it will hit harder because you are "not suppose" to be this confident with your words since you are short or whatever.

So you think you are ugly that's a shame,also even if she approaches you the way you handle the situation its whats most important.Doesnt matter how good looking you are, if you dont know what to do then nothing happens. If women throws at you you wouldnt know what to do.You will be busy checking out other guys worrying if somebody betterlooking will come which then begs a queastion do you like guys or women more? Ps:im not being mean its 100% reality of whats going on..

Its waste of time when you make game about women ofcourse ,that's how it is.When you make game about yourself ,then all this possibilities of growth shows, you are closed off right now because you dont love yourself,you love pussy more than yourself.

Your last part its exactly it , in that moment you are connecting to yourself by the sentences you find attractive to you,so thats a connection and there are millions of connections one has to do with himself,so when the women comes you are not actually connecting to her in a way,you are connecting to yourself and like you said shes connecting to your authenticity.Point is the more for example you are connected to your sexual side , the more she will experience it,so one must connect with himself and be it.Many guys have connection to a woman so there is no impact you can make, so they further feminise themselves with red pill.

The principle of doing it to yourself first. Sell speech to yourself before others. Respect yourself before asking for it. Connect with yourself before you can with others. Influence yourself before you can influence others. Lead yourself so you can lead others.

No point in talking to you,you already know everything.

There is no coaching there, i would congratulate him for his end of marriage.

You dont know what game is. Game is used to get money,game is you,its not something you use or put as a cap now im doing game that's not it. The way someone makes an unique product and sell it thats game.

Her coldness and cockyness is also her downfall,she thinks she has everything under control with 99% of guys, but when she meets and original who pulls things out of her,then all those guys that shes cold towards pushes her even harder to the original man. That's why they always come back if you were good to her.

Hypergamy is a boogymen to those without game, to those that has its music to the ears,because you wish to seperate yourself from everybody else. #Bridgesofmadison

Before all of that worry,you already lost by your opponent.. is that you are in it to get laid,so she can use sex to do whatever she wants you to do and you will put up with that bs.Like a hamster in a wheel,shes thinking what kind of obstacle will i give him today that will he hop as a good boy.He must be worthy of my pu@@y cmon. First obstacle: Buy me a drink first 😂

Yes persistence againts all odds, just working on yourself every day,no women should stop you from doing what you need to do for yourself,since its not about them, its about breaking through barriers of your former self, its so much better than scoring a woman imo.

Ofcourse but with each interaction you should learn and evolve.

Persistence in what context?