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@Nemra goal is never a woman, relationship ,womens acceptence or understanding womens emotions, but to become the emotion to a woman. You need to learn game to understand what im even saying thats where disconnect is, im not talking about normal human endevour.

@Nemra Women suppose to be guided by their emotions.The thing is that i dont want to change nothing, i just need to present myself so she can get a full picture of who i am.Based on who i am shes gonna modify her behaviour or not.If by presenting myself i sent signals that she recognize femininty in me, shes gonna back off, if she cant find femininity shes gonna be drawn in because she doesnt know nor understands what a man is,how he operates.

Me watching the episode i came to the easy obvious point that isnt most important thing having your own system in place of right and wrong?.Like i could see that im wrong when someone points it out,but im only wrong from the point of view of that persons values,morals,paradigms.Im choosing to be wrong from their pov, because this thing im holding i know is right for me.So many times you can get into an argument where im right based on my direction and my mission, while it conflicts other person direction and their mission/values/identity.Thats why following spiritual teachers or any teacher is dangerous if you dont know where are they actually leading you, who are they? With that reasoning i could be 100% right in one direction and 100% wrong in another direction. Isnt then that we can only see that we are wrong when we expend more of who we are? So am i wrong only based on how well i know myself and know how far i want to grow? There is like no objective truth on anything besides absolute truth aka God. Last thing with right or wrong i always remember Amy Whinehouse, like the right thing to do was to go to the addiction therapy ,but how do we know what is best for somebody and why then right or wrong matter in objective sense? How wrong am i here in this reasoning?

@Nemra I have emotions but im not emotional. Im acting based on calculated mindset that could include feelings but its not the main thing that drives behaviour.Sometime emotion can be used but emotional about yourself not the woman. Feminine people will see a woman and cant approach because how beautiful she is or will completely change based on the fear they experiencing.

@Nemra I also know that you would think being a man is toxic because you embody femninity. If he was rooted in himself then he wouldnt even believe in rejection,he wouldnt even desire a woman more than himself and put all focus on himself not a woman,so all his bitterness is product of not knowing how to value himself over a woman. When one values woman more then ironically he will look to manipulate and act weak around them.Acting out of emotion aka outside world which is feminine.

@Nemra then by your logic your post is called being ignorant. ignorant and toxic to yourself by judging someone like that, i would say you judge women the same calling them sluts if they do something bad.

No because not everyone will choose the right choices to "make it".

By being rooted in yourself and not feminity, everyone bitter towards a woman is feminine and women want a man. Be honest with yourself, you have zero game you dont love and believe in yourself.

@bebotalk i know you know that you talking to a she,so it seems you cant learn,to not scare women off this forum i publicy say you getting 4 warning points like the rules been set.

@Rafael Thundercat well it seems that you know the answers so give me a hint.Like its a delicate matter because if you read a book for example and you think it holds an objective truth you are just hurting yourself.Then you tell me go see it in your direct experience i could, but there could be something missing in my understanding to see how the objective truth works so my personal truth is in the way of me seeing it.Also if you are programmed to think like someone here that Leo has all the truth(even tho it could be 100% truth) still hurts you because there is 0 personal truth combined.

@Leo Gura will do 👍 thanks

@Leo Gura So its even more complicated than i thought,ive been wrestling with this for a decade i guess it will take few more to get the bottom of it @Kksd74628 somewhat like that but i see it like making a cocktail its hard to balnse it out

Yeah thats how it should be. You got an answer that thats slavery but thats opposite of slavery.Slavery is you must do it, but here you get big picture of how things are and where they are going, so women can choose if thats good for her or not.Also if you see she is forcing herself to do it then she doesnt value you so let her go also. I guess to be a real women learn to asses what standards and rules you would follow. All of the advice for women is good but at the end of the day woman need a real man to be a real woman and its because of the thing i said above..

@Leo Gura So to put it simply what is the relationship between objective truth and subjective truth? How much one has the freedom in subjective truth since by logic objective truth is superior?

@Juan Game is in all asecpts of life so game=life. Everywhere where you need to do something for yourself in your own way.

@Leo Gura So my queastion was and forgot to ask,where does the personal truth fit into all of this,does it bent to the objective truth,or it can "overpower" it because everyone is different, or it has room for interpratiom based on following the objectivity? Its like they are working together but its little confusing...

@Leo Gura For most of my life i was thinking about objective truths you are talking about,now i see that only truth is inside me because for me fish could = money for you food, then in terms of epistomology objective truth is coming to the essence of the nature of that thing without personal identity involved? Because i could know the objective truth for example you need great genes to be an elite athlete, but with that thinking it hurts my growth because i wont even reach my genetic potential because i would quit before even starting, so i choose to not believe it even tho im wrong.

@rd5555 Charming,smooth,sensual,romantic,insightful,finneser,poetic,asshole/jerk/villan,marketer(good at marketing himself, no nonsense/brash,passionate,cheeky,charismatic,kinky,dirty,chill/calm/cold etc...

Pick up is not game. Game is you, so style comes from who you are ,if you are cocky then there will be cocky flirting,teasing.If you identify as a man then you are direct,impactful.Startegy,tactics etc. is just one part of the game out of 1000 parts of you that you dont even know, because you are not student of the game..

You need to learn game meaning connecting with yourself and knowing yourself, so then you can express it to others. You cant sell something if you dont know about it,why is it important and how to use it.People cant see who you are. You dont know how to be ,thats why you dont know when to settle down and thats why people dont connect to you.

Well when people sense weakness in you then they will attack you,its like they are healing their psychological problems and you are just an easy mark to push around for their benefit.When they see you want to help,when they see you are sensitive then they immidietly tell themselves this guy is weak also dishonest, he is a good guy lets attack his whole weak worldview its repulsive, expecially if you are dating it will be attacked because she wants to know shes secured with you, if you too emotionaly sensitive she wont feel safe. Also you should give specific piece of conversation that happened that led to the attack for better clarity..

Reading books and looking to adopt its philosophy doesnt work.You dont know yourself and you look to put someone elses philosophy.You must create your own philosophy based on who you are but you dont know who you are,you are lost in circles.You reading a book must know how you gonna implement it.Lets say you reading a fitness book and they tell you lift 150kg and you will be strong it doesnt apply to your level.Using its information to your specific situation. What you are doing is like dropping seeds on unfertile ground.Or putting fish in desert. You must tailor that philosophy to your level and who you are to move foward but foward where? You dont know even where you are going and look for somebody else to tell you that, it will never work because only you must know you, to put it in place.

@BlessedLion Makes no sense because this is all about matter of influence.When one is influenced by outside stimuli which enhances its own identity there comes the problem.Women wear dress,make up to feel sexy and thats okay for them but its not okay for a man(too add clothes etc to feel better)because then he doesnt have influence over himself,then doesnt have influence over a woman.When one feels too much from outside, then everything you do has average influence ,then you have to go find women in other countries because your influence is weak. You use feel too much,make me feel like a man make you feel this way ,which influences who you are ,thats a feminine trait.Man is solid in his own identity which doesnt get bigger or smaller only by himself.

@TheGod No you are 100% right im full of sh#t,in near future due to estrogen male apocalypse, we will have to look for extra feminine and hot as hell women in the core of the earth 🙌

From the perspective of a man all those pills holds no weight! they are made and has truth to the efeminite guys. Why? Because center of all of the ideology is a woman,while mans ideology is focus on himself.. red pill-women are bad they will leave or cheat on you etc. black pill-if you are not 6 feet and up and dont have great genese there is no chance, blue pill-living in phantasy of how women are precious... To a man red pill-holds no weight because red pill is focused on the end resault if you noticed ,she will leave you for another guy in the end,she will cheat on you,but there is never big picture analyzed, the first step a guy made with a woman and steps in between that caused the end resault,so man will never look what happened to someone else and think this will happen to me ,because im not that guy so red pill is bs to a man.Man moves foward and dismisses a woman that shows signs of disrespect. Black pill-holds no weight because a man doesnt move off of his looks but who he is and if his genes are not the best, he doesnt care he works with what he has and will embrace the challenge of going againts all odds which is sweeter than easy mode. Blue pill-man doesnt live in that naive phantasy world because he is not passive and look at the sidelines thinking what if, so its pointless again.