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By conecting with yourself first, you cant connect with someone if you dont have a sense of self(knowing yourself on a deeper level) you can only trauma bond which is not healthy.. When you know yourself then you can find things in you that are similar in others, giving your own unique perspective and personality... Social anxiety is a mask that blocks all of that and notice you are not social anxiety its what you do so connect with who you are(easier said than done)... Basically owning and being one with yourself solves this problem...

@mr_engineer ok you are right its pointless to talk about this you have your own racionalozations and keep having them women will treat you like food so you will start blame them and you will take another red pill ?

@Razard86 yeah we are all in this together but sometimes someone shakes you out of your bubble... @mr_engineer women this women that thats the problem again you are making it about the women and it has nothing to do with women(you are not even in the game thinking its about women but this is hard to explain in one thread)... You know how you make yourself happy and create mind world for yourself that she follows you are not trying to make her happy ? i told you that and you continue to complain because mind is fing you over... Edit:bad boys doesnt give a fuck about women how come they love them so much think about that?

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What is shameful in that? You worship women thats why you cant show it because what will she think? what i need to do to make her like me type of bs that makes you walk on eggshells...

There are some gels you put on before sex that makes you last longer havent tried but its worth a try ?‍♂️

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So your looks will determin if a girl wants you or not?

@Razard86 I think road to compassiom starts with being grateful to outside things and more importantly grateful for things you have inside yourself grateful for yourself then you can have compassion more because you start loving yourself then compassion can start i think being grateful is underrated and it could kill the shadow and lack of compassion ?

@Razard86 we have this thing called contracts that create how we feel and they are usually messed up like contract saying i hate rain and i dont have anything to do when its raining its making me depressed...so every time rain comes you will be depressed automatically and blame weather for your internal problems its like in everything and just in reaction mode and not taking proactive contract that serves you.. Edit:just different perspective of what you said

No its not its your own perception of the world that keeps you in prison aka hell realm...

@HereNow There is always hope thats the thing but in process you are losing your self esteem your manhood by trying to get someone thats not interested in you romanticaly and you are in weak position where you will try to make it work doing some silly stuff...other thing is time you can focus on someone that wants you for real and you can move her better and more efficient on your terms not hers...

@HereNow So its period of 2 months...situation is that you created an image in her mind of a friendly guy that she likes to talk to and now you jumped to more intimate level is a shock to her and dishonesty in her mind so its tough now to move things further than being a friend... Shes fighting that but shes losing.. so if you ask me i would say hey friend thing is not for me so if you wanna have crazy sexual experiences then contact me something in those lines but you do what you wanna do but in the end its a waste of time if you wanna have sex...

How long did it pass before you made it clear you want something more? And what did you do with her before that?

By realizing nothing that you do cant change the past, you cant go back and change it,when you get this there will be no point in cringing...

Beat me for a split second ? @Leo Gura

@mr_engineer There is no competition dude ? theres is only one of your kind.. I just gave you an example humor is one thing it could be anything how you gonna move her,how you gonna make her think, how you gonna make her blush ,how you gonna turn her on, how you gonna make her feel passionate ,you create based upon what makes you passionate excited then you throw it creating your own game and how you gonna move... Theres infinite layers of your own creation that you create and then use it based upon situation and what you gonna do to her how you gonna show her who you are etc. Thats Game no manipulation needed! Wheres competition when you create an experience an evening full of your own mind fun where will she find that?

@mr_engineer Who told you you need to manipulate? Find things in you that are authentic for example you wanna make her laugh then see what type of humor you like then pick a line you gonna say and throw it when its a good timing wheres manipulation in this? Manipulation is when you pedestalize women and try be something you are not to get laid ..

@mr_engineer Player doesnt look for love anymore he looks to get most out of relationship potential but he usually brings more value than woman so hes in position to pick and choose woman and then woman start to buy him stuff bringing more and more value just to keep his attention.. True nice guys turning player will usually be concious and because of momentum become way better than naturals..

@mr_engineer Player will always win nice guy cant do nothing about it but being in position to please plead and care for her with no much effect and seeling his own self for her ?..

@mr_engineer Yeah there are alot of them that wanna become... good point that could be only love relationship that i could support because its real love not human love?

@mr_engineer Thats Gods love i dont think anyone thinks about that when they think about love... At that point why would you need one person to love you love them all even the walls and books on your shelfs in same way as you would love a person...petty relationship dies at that point ? your options are very limited i dont think there are many enlightened girls around...

@mr_engineer Can you explain me what love is other than fullfilling someones materialistic or survival needs that match yours?

@Razard86 Choosing signals ??

@mr_engineer Hook her on you then there will be no problem but to hook her on you you need to deepen yourself but nobody is ready for that ?‍♂️ working on yourself pff pls ? wanna hook on everything but you weird how that works..