Faceless

Ah I see ?

But could I have done that without actual freedom from fear and the movement of psychological time. ??‍♂️ That was an instantaneous and sudden perception. As the lack of freedom is usually why we can’t explore without self decieving, and getting caught in illusion to escape fear.

That’s what I mean when I say to people you are your own book. Everything you need to know is already there in your self

I went into all the different aspects of the conditioned consciousness. The whole of consciousness as it currently was at that moment. So I investigated the nature of all the things that presented themselves as an issue to me. Fear, pleasure, anxiety, depression, anger, confusion, sorrow, suffering, as on as they just kept piling up. I explored what they were, and what caused them. I saw that all such psychological problems had to do with thought and explored thought as whole. Then investigated thought in relation to identity and so on. I saw that thought and the psyche are one and that thought in its very nature was influenced by the other and vice versa. Seeing that thought/self are one and that the self being bias/prejudice influencing thought must end or in order to inquire freely and non partially into questions of reality, mind, truth and so. ?

The question is will thought let go of the thinker enough to go direct in inquiry. For me when I saw the falsness of the thinker only then could I move on. Inquiry for me wasn’t as such. I went into all the different aspects of he conditioned consciousness. In this I learned about the whole of consciousness, which in seeing the falsness that I was that conditioned conciousness. This made the act of direct and total negation of that entire field. Also for me their was first freedom then inquiry was more brought about with a greater quality then if I would have inquired before their was that freedom.

My good friend I grew up with parents are like that. His dad was even a preacher for a while. My friend suffers tremendously. Hes doing better since we share stuff with one another. But he can’t seem to break that conditioning. Everything is determined by the that conditioning. View on life/existence. Classic alienation, separation, the stranger in the world outlook.

Psychologically time is suffering so yes, at least thats what I went through. That’s where I seemed to get my passion to face it without running away. I feel that i let go of fighting the suffering as I seen that that was itself the root of suffering. I saw that the movement away from the fact caused suffering. So then their was a holistic action not born of time that ended time. Anyway this perception was the action away from that pattern. Not cultivating time to be free of time, but seeing the truth of time brought about an action of intelligence ‘wholeness’ not influenced by the movement of psychological time. The perception and the action all in one. It wasn’t perception and then gradual ‘time’ then action, as that implies thought ‘time’... in order for time to end the action away from time must be whole. All actions influenced by the stream of thought/volition/time remain bound by time. At least this is my experience. ?

Poor Jesus ? poor people who believe what is preached? poor us ?

To bad that is not is not preached?

Got a feeling it has something to do with concentration

Yeah what is that

Face and learn about fear. See how the fear determines every action and non-action, and influences expression/reflection and is projected outward.

Of course. Relationships are great self learning tools? perhaps the best. Mirror of relationship shows us what is actually happening If we face fear that causes us to avoid or escape that is

The illusion of fear does suck. Hehe

I probably have an IQ of about 20 so??‍♂️ Lol I never went to school and was never interested in the intellect really. Although I am glad I didn’t as I rely more on awareness of my own movements/nature. For me, solitude was the answer. I observed myself and nature simultaneously and just seemed to understand things better. I cant imagine getting anywhere asking others anyway. This in my point of view has to be down on your own. Do you understand the concept of psychological time? If so you can observe it in your own living experiences. If not look into what psychological time is. To me it’s the most direct and simple way to really embody any form of understanding. Because then you are not just understanding but you are actually expressing/reflecting that understanding in your daily living/conduct. check it out? all this is very simple, to simple for a complex mind. So the mind must become silent first.

Cool ? I guess it did imply order Thanks I will check that out??

I don’t anything about that. Sounds like it implies order though? order is a great power??

Well said?

?

Is their a relationship at all??? Knowing implies an opportunity for invention. Novelty implies actual creativity, that which is totally new. Knowing helps in practical/functional affairs. To respond to and predict/anticipate, and respond to challenges in our environment. Novelty is a seeing that the known can never be creative. Seeing that the known determines the validity of one thing and then another. Novelty implies creativity which implies something totally new. Knowing can never be ‘new’ as knowing is dependent on the old. Knowing is dependent on the evolution of memory, knowledge, experience which is the stream of thought. So the difference between knowing and novelty is knowing is a static movement. Each movement of knowing is born out of another static movement. Static being old, dead, a frozen thought of time. Thought is always old and never new. So thought which implies ‘knowing/the known’ can never be creative. Novelty on the other hand is not born of thought ‘memory, knowledge, and experience.’ Novelty is dynamic ‘active and alive.’ Novitly is not influenced by thought ‘the known.’ When it comes to the necessity of freedom from time the known, which is the knower, prevents all novelty from becoming actual. If their is the knower their is no novilty ‘creativity.’ Any action influenced by the known which is ‘static’ will only lead to invention which is born of thought. So at that point the knower/known are bound by the static nature of time. Freedom from the known implies that each moment can be looked upon with fresh eyes. It is a creative movement not determined by any past movements of thought ‘memory, knowledge, and experience.’ To look upon ‘the now’ which is a dynamic movement with that of ‘the know’ is to attempt to capture a dynamic movement with a static movement. This is an impossibility. A static movement will interfere/alter a dynamic movement to its own static impressions. So when we look upon the now with the influence of the past we impose that static movement onto the present ‘Dynamic.’ If their is an ending of the static ‘time’ then that new, active, and dynamic moment of now can be observed free of the accumulation of the knower/known. Then their is just observation without the observer ‘knower.’ This is a truly creative movement. This is timelessness. In my experience/non experiencing this is the closest one can get to “wholeness” To actually tap into Wholness their can not be the influence of that which is static. Wholeness is active, alive, and dynamic. In order for that to come into being the static must end. Timeless is dynamic and time is static. To me to identify movements of time in our own experience leads to a silent, clear, and orderly mind. If any one happens to be interested in this please post below anything you see as a movement of time ‘thought’ ? What are some movements of time? Can anyone give any example of a such a movement?

That’s a great power?

The movement of fear determining another movement. Lol

Yep?

Even If their is no problem be sure that thought will create one?

That’s the function of thought. To solve problems. ⭕️