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Right. Thought inevitably can’t touch it. Which implies our point of reference within the field of thought is to limited. Just like with truth/reality. Cant understand the whole “truth or reality” with the “part/fragment” thought.

I see what you are saying? although it’s good to ask the question...if there is an image at all, being an image of yourself which projects onto the other can there actully be a relationship “communion”??? This is a really great one to go into. You will find that your own self image inevitably projects onto the other. For example, if you stick a pin in my self image “disagree or resist my self imposed image” , to me it’s as if your were attacking that very image. I then become defensive and cling to self preservation. Then I defend and attack back. “Division/Conflict” So I have set an image for myself which allowed for an image to be attacked in the first place. Do you see what I am getting at?

Thought. No matter what the observer invites time “thought”... can’t be separated actually. Right? Thats why time “the observer” is relevant?

Well then you have imitated/conformed to an image. Then you will inevitably conflict with a different point of view/standpoint/position with someone else. In this there is the invitation to division/conflict? thought in relationship implies division and conflict.

The less of an image is imposed onto the relationship the more genuine it is. Imposed images lead to confusion, contradiction, conflict.

@Viking Time is thought? what is used to study QM?

But can thought just be with what is “truth”

@Joseph Maynor@dharm4 This has to do with a post I just left on suicide shortcut. I’ve been pondering this today.

?? Great question? @Shakazulu Would you say “growth” is a movement of fear “thought” from “decline or decrease” ??

With “More and progress” as a goal, can there be love? What is the mechanism in movement that prevents actual love?

@tsuki is referring to... When one persist long in ones own folly one may become wise.

Well said my friend??

Cool man? Because you see it within yourself. Therefore not a concept, idea, theory, but to you an actual fact that can be observed.

Yeah. Thought/desire and all its implications imply psychological time. To end that movement “time in becoming” implies entlightned being.

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There is just a seeking. ?

Meditation is when the i is not. This is an all day affair. I do not meditate. There is just meditation.

Well yeah ? If you see the fact that you are hurt and there is always a compulsion to seek security away form that hurt, you then see that thought tends to mechanicaly move in the direction of self preservation. So yeah you have accomplished what most people refer to as raised consciousness. I call it an intelligent perception and therefore followed by intelligent action. Ultimately to see that thought has no place in relationship brings about intelligent action in relationship, and therefore no contradiction, confusion, and conflict.

Hehe That’s it’s fuction lol It definitely “chooses” one or another. ?

Exactly Or deprogram? By a holistic perception of “seeing the whole” thought/the conceptual, ceases and what remains is truth. Yeah from the personal to impersonal hehe. A ceasing of time...or a cessation of the center?

It’s a movement of thought? Thought/desire in its very function leads to contradiction. I don’t know QM. But I know thought. Hehe

Although this is not absolutely correct. But to one that had to follow a path it was for them. For me I just resisted until I found the futility in that. Saw that escape by means of psychological time was futile. And it was ended. All at once. No process. Unless the process was 32 years of resistance. Unless my path was that resistance. Lolol

We just need to wash away the mud from the window per say

Yeah Chase until you see the futility in it?

By seeing the nature of its limitation? But chance being a movement of thought doesnt like impermanence or uncertainty, which is a direct expression of its very limit. Hehehe?