Faceless

Thank you @Viking I’m very excited to share the beauty of this?? As I look at what watts has shared I see his sharing is rather valuable. He was a great communicator huh?

Although this seemed to happen all at once for me. I don’t see any stages as I look back. This may depend on circumstances I guess.

We share with one another We share with ourselves

Nice. I’ve never heard of samadhi and all those tearms but how it was explained was very similar to an experiential account of that happening. I have never personally thought of any of it as any type of movement of practice or concentration but this may just be the word usage/meaning. Never the less what a fantastic video to share @who chit ??

Welcome

The one gets it. ⭕️ ??

I would say a truly void stage implies the other, or that wasn’t really a void ? If that was really a void stage then that is truth/nothingness In truth/nothingness implies freedom, joy, beauty, creativity, compassion and love ??

That’s it’s function hehe

? Division/conceptual self sustainment. Selective perception in accordance to self preservation? Nice Or, to introduce the fear of the known coming to an end. Therefore conflict to secure the continuity of self. The cause is the effect and the effect is the cause ⭕️ Hehe What sees this paradox ?

Measure leads to further measure. Measure and then action implies a static/measurable/finite/and limited action. ? Nothingness/truth being void of measure sees the whole of measure... Action free of measure impies dynamic/infinite/complete action. Not a movement and then action which implies division, but just action. Theres the movement of thought, then insight/perception, then action which would imply a limited partial/fragmented action. And then there is insight/action. This is an undivided whole action as it does not become divided by the movement of time. This makes for harmony of time/timeless. Compete action.

Action born of nothingness/truth. Insight/perception Once there is division ‘time’ that truth nothingness is not. Division inevitably expresses itself in communication so time has to operate there. But in order for nothingness/action to act directly the division of Time must cease. Embodiment is the absense of division in the action. This action is whole “holy” It’s beautiful?

@tsuki and I take an interest in time/timelessness. Hes my buddy.

@tsuki Measure leads to further measure. Measure and then action implies a static/measurable/finite/and limited action. ? Nothingness/truth being void of measure sees the whole of measure... Action free of measure impies dynamic/infinite/complete action. Not a movement and then action which implies division, but just action. Theres the movement of thought, then insight/perception, then action which would imply a limited partial/fragmented action. And then there is insight/action. This is an undivided whole action as it does not become divided by the movement of time. This makes for harmony of time/timeless. Compete action. ⭕️ Very interesting huh

That wasn’t for you my incredibly wise friend. Just a sharing to the one.

The key is to take notice of the deep rooted motive and intention of that curiosity. As that motive and intention will hide itself to self sustain its agenda.

Think of it as not attempting to help or break but simply sharing. Be aware of your motive/intentions “thought and movements of self” You will see that thought will constantly very subtlety move without even seeing it self. This is the measure of ones degree of embodiment. Although to really embody this awareness measure must end. Measure is the very driving force for these self centered actions anyhow. No measure, no self preservation, no self preservation, no measure.?

@MarkusSweden We learn more and more as life goes on. Self learning never ends

Hehe

That’s all a movement of thought. I question that kind of curiosity as just curiosity if you know what I mean. Hehe True curiosity free of thought implies walking for the sake of walking. Exploring with no end goal projected. The goal prevents the entirety of the “journey” from truly revealing itself.

I guess my girlfriend figured I had lost my head as I was in there for three hours or so.

Discipline does not come about by the imposition of thought, but comes about by maintaining order in the field of thought. And the only way for there to be order in thought is for truth/perception to see thought as a whole. Discipline that conforms and imitates is a movement of thought itself and usualy this movement goes undetected. Thought will tend to move in so many ways undetected that might not even be aware it is in movement and determining various actions. The thing is to watch the whole of it. Most go about this differently. It’s not discipline then freedom but freedom first and then comes discipline. People generally get that mixed up thanks to culture and so on. It’s a big part of ones conditioning. This is a big reason people spend 50 years as a seeker. Yes you are getting it man. It’s a very subtle thing for that spontaneity act. There has to be the cessation of thought/self “psychological time” all together. When this happens one doesn’t meditate but is meditation. This can be an all day affair very easily. This is how I do it. Yesterday I was even as meditation while grocery shopping. I don’t remeber a thing. Hehe

Oh it is possible.

If one understands what it takes to have an actual relationship with another than its great.