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? Hehe has nothing to do with thought my man. Intuition is still thought...hehe anything I speak of is action free of the conditioned mind. Thought is only used to communicate. I think you misunderstand my friend. Also I’m not taking any side in this. Just participating.

Still a movement of ego/thought Truth is when all that is not

Without the experiential seeing ‘as’ nothingness there is no creative observation, joy, beauty, and compassion. And without that ??‍♂️

It’s ok We have to take into account that some people are at different points of realization or understandings. You know what I mean

Kids watch there parents very closely and pick up habits and such from them. How you express yourself will have an effect on your kids. Its very difficult for kids who’s parents are not conscious. Also for the fact that the cultural norm is to throw them in standardized education. This along with family relationship is perhaps the most critical aspect to preventing unconscious habits from being taken up. My girlfriend had a 10 year old boy and he is already very caught in the chaos of ego. This started when he was put in kindergarten. The first day. It was dramatic. I have a 2year old now and I am looking for a school that doesn't cram all the various conditioning down the kids throat. For me I am glad I never went to school. I might have been caught in the rat race indefinitely. So my goal is to make sure my boy is incapable of being hurt psychologically. That’s my purpose.

Usualy If Words and imagination “thought” then action. Simply act without that action being influenced by that very movement.

Believing or disbelief is still a movement of thought. Also there are still other movements of thought that take place. Thought moves very subtlety and in most cases goes undetected. The point is to be able to see the whole movement of thought at once. In this you have to be able to identify that very movement as it arises. Then as this movement arises you instantly see it and in that seeing is the ending. This is not an imposition of thought either. It’s intelligent action. Action not influenced by that very same movement of thought/time. ?

@Principium Nexus Who experiences thought/experience?

?? Yep

Yeah that’s ok. I understand that. I wrote that just Incase you were ready for it as I wouldn’t want to assume otherwise. When I don’t understand something I investigate until I do. Either way i like to share the significance of having no head. I assure you it’s not to advanced. Anyone can do this. It doesn’t take a lot of time either. I have only been investigating this for 6 months. Little over a year ago there was ceasing of psychological time/thought and ever sense I have just been trying to put together how this happen and how to explain it. It all depends the approach and watchfulness. Good luck ??

Ah ? thanks

You don’t remember who wrote this?

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Seriously...that’s a great one

Nice man ?

Ah interesting. Try and find that for me. If you have time of course

@Mikael89 The thing is to not worry about nothingness “direct experience” as that can not be invited. If one is still in the the position of being bound by the conditioned mind “time” one can not touch upon nothingness “direct experience” without that conditioned mind ceasing all together. Being the cessation of psychological time “fragmentation and the dualisitic compulsion to choose between the opposites.” This is a consistency that takes place as a movement of self/thought. This consist of not adding anything but constantly removing/dissolving “ the knower/the know”.. or the conditioned content of your current consciousness. Not being influenced by all the contradictory desires, pleasures, escaping of fear, seeking psychological security, and so on....all that is fueled by the known/knower. All that is preventing direct experience “nothingness” or “what is” or preventing the now from being seen without all that blocking the direct view. Be aware of your current content of conciousness. You can’t do anything about the other, “Direct experience or nothingness/truth” until the current conditioned content has ended Also one can not apply that conditioned movement to end itself. It’s to give diligent awareness without the imposition of the self/thought that leads to the cessation of thought/the knower. So the key is to learn the nature/structure/processes/substance of thought/self and to maintain scrupulous attention without thought/self trying to change it in any way. The subtle thing is that by being aware of that movement, yet not moving in any particular direction to change or alter it. To engage in any such movement is applying the very mechanism that prevents direct perception of “what is” form being seen. I would start by exploring/understanding psychological time/thought. For now. This is what I am constantly aware of now. After a while it becomes very simple. Mainly I am aware of the movement of reaction to seek security in the illusion of psychological time. But after a while those movements just fade away. It becomes effortless and I don’t even notice. Anyway just wanted to share how I do things. May seem difficult but it is actually very simple in action. To simple. It’s simple yet difficult. It’s difficult because it’s so simple Anyway I feel we gotta read the manual to the self/thought if you want the mechanism of thought to work for you instead of against you. After all it has been said somewhere that the mind is a great servant but a bad master. This is true. Mind is a tool. If that tool takes over and you identify your self with it, ultimately you will suffer and live a confused, contradicting, and conflictual life. I understand if you this is not for you? Maybe someone else will either way right

Yeah the known/knower is being clinged to. Happen about 40 times today to my other half. She doesn’t notice but it do. ? I don’t mind. Hehe

Nah I would continue to cook that wonderful meal she started I know the difficulties you go through to some extent?

@moon777light Your welcome ?? I’m glad it was clear enough to get across

This is what I refer to as centerlessness or the all is center non experiencing Also call it having no head/headless. A dynamic stillness so to speak.

Thanks man. I hope I made some sense. ? communicating this can be a B I act as a space for her to do as she will. This way I don’t perpetuate the conflict. Hehe?

Hehe ? I feel you