Carl-Richard

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  1. Let me clarify for the thread in general that this energy I'm referring to is not something exotic and "other" that you have to discover like some hidden dimension or realm. It's identical to your body. It's just that it requires approaching it with your attention like a microscope, to try to see the very smallest and finest details. Like there are microorganisms in your body, there are micro-movements and micro-physiological events in your body that you can become aware of. Your awareness of these phenomena is what the energy is. Really everything in your body, even the most gross and obvious movements, like lifting your arm, is this energy. I'm just talking about the subtler and finer detail movements.


  2. 1 hour ago, aurum said:

    I'd say that's accurate.

    Any energetic experiences do not appear to have any sort of directionality. And relaxation feels more mental / emotional than physical. I once had a bliss experience during a Strong Determination Sitting, where I was in pretty significant physical pain.

    No.

    The only thing releasing sexual energy does is affect my sex drive. If I'm releasing a lot, then my sex drive goes down. If I retain, then usually my sex drive feels a lot more "primed".

    Nothing else really changes.

    It's analogous to eating a meal. If I just ate a meal, I'm probably not going to be hungry for a little while. But that's about the extent it affects me. There's not much of a noticable spillover effect to other areas of my life.

    Interesting. I guess it underscores the fact that realizing formlessness does not necessarily depend on anything happening in form, such as knowledge or sensitivity of energy phenomena.


  3. 35 minutes ago, aurum said:

    Relaxation, yes.

    That was one of things that hooked me in my early 20s on meditation. After my first month of consistent meditation, I had such an intense experience of relaxation that it rolled into essentially total bliss. I felt like I had taken MDMA. The afterglow lasted for about a week.

    Years later, I did a 10-day Vispassana retreat where I also had some interesting bliss experiences. I also unlocked some sort of energetic buzzing at the base of the right side of my neck. Afterwards, the buzzing in this spot would often reactivate when I did energy work, or sometimes just spontaneously. At one point when I was being very consistent with my practice, it would reactivate daily. I could essentially turn it on and off at will.

    Also around this time, I would occassionally wake up in the middle of the night to my spine spasming, almost like I was having a non-sexual orgasm. It was not as pleasant though.

    So yes, I've experienced relaxation, buzzing, tingling, etc. But I would not use terms like "unwinding", "shooting out the top of my head" or anything like this.

    Ok so you agree that there is a progression from tension to relaxation (unwinding of energy) in the body and that this occurs in different parts of the body. You just don't feel it around your head area or that there is energy moving towards it.

    Do you experience the "transmutation" I described with sexual energy (it increasing mental clarity when not released)?

     

    35 minutes ago, aurum said:

    I would just caution against judging awakening from any physical feats or interesting energetic experiences.

    That was not what I was doing, but I agree it's mostly a futile exercise to judge awakening through questioning.


  4. 11 minutes ago, Eskilon said:

    If the desire for awakening must go, then deconstruction too must go. Everything must go.

    Deconstruction is but a temporary means, not the end. Every technique must be like this. Don't get lost in them.

    If you find the Buddha on the road, kill him.

    Again, letting go of letting go. You see the trick that is being played? It's letting go all the way down.


  5. On 29.6.2025 at 11:59 AM, Nilsi said:

    Incidentally, one of my favorite metal records - if you can even call it that; it’s more post-metal, really - also employs saxophone, but more in the spirit of no wave or late John Coltrane than anything prog-related.

    Honestly, I don’t like progressive rock all that much. It feels too modern in the sense that it’s always trying to weave some grand narrative and impose coherence on all these disparate parts. Whereas something like no wave or other avant-garde music embraces the gap - the rupture that ultimately can’t be resolved.

    Some kinds of music play on innovation and surprise, while other play on refining and maximizing specific well-established qualities. For example, Freddie Mercury's voice, while mostly expressed in a "classic" rock format, absolutely blows the quality of "rock vocals" out of the water.

    Progressive rock for me is somewhere in the middle. You have the deep loyalty and precise refining of the rock format but also elements of innovation. And that produces a very unique balance of refinement and familiarity sprinkled in with surprise and idiosyncrasy. Someone like Gentle Giant is arguably an example of pushing more strongly in the direction of innovation.

    But this all kinda depends on the time horizon you're viewing it from. Because you can also take progressive rock as its own format and refine that again, which is arguably what someone like Steven Wilson has done (he is not coincidentally a renowned audio engineer, so much so that he has gotten to remix the old music of bands like Yes and Jethro Tull).


  6. On 28.6.2025 at 8:19 PM, Nilsi said:

    By the way, the second video you sent doesn’t seem to load on my end.

    Does it load now? 3:45 is when the monstrocity of a riff starts (and again, the one after at 4:16 too is a monstrocity). The time starts a bit before where you get the buildup leading to it. I couldn't let that one slide 😤

     


  7. 11 hours ago, aurum said:

    It is not rare at all. Understanding feels available to me at almost all times, if I choose. Very self-sustaining.

    Sometimes I do get distracted and lose awareness though.

    I'm not sure what you mean exactly by running up against a threshold or state-maximizing. Explain?

    I'm just trying to judge how far you are from Enlightenment. But anyways.

    Is there nothing physical going on in your meditation? Do you not get more and more relaxed as your meditation deepens? Do you not feel your muscles becoming more loose and your body becoming lighter? I'm just pointing out that there is a certain logic behind this that you can tap into and that you can become more aware of.


  8. 2 hours ago, Inliytened1 said:

    Very interesting. Indeed. 

    But why the bodywork? I don't understand that.  In fact Truth reveals that the body is an illusion.  So how does that fit in for you? Thank you for sharing as well.  Just followed you.  

    Why mindwork? Truth reveals that the mind is an illusion. But of course you will object to this because you usually don't distinguish between the personal and transpersonal.


  9. One time I connected so much with this girl in terms of shared interests, my mind was in denial as it was happening, and instead of pursuing one of the threads, my brain just malfunctioned and responded as if I was talking to someone who didn't have those interests 😂 "Oh so you also used to listen to death metal when falling asleep? Cool... I really like all forms of music..." 😂😂

    Or it was just the social stigma with liking death metal that caused some mental block. Anyway 😆


  10. 12 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

    Understood sorry.  Yet my point still stands.

    Aversion to substance in teaching is a bit like going to war and not using your weapons. You already went to war, you already committed to taking the messy route. If you prefer fighting it with your fists, that's a choice you can make, but don't pretend like it's a noble choice. Self-imposed retardation is still retardation.


  11. 3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

    This is very overcomplicated about meditation.  The energy you are feeling coming on is Being.  When you awaken you will have a rush of Being that fills your entire body.  Others have eluded it to being Kundalini.  I just call it Being.  But do not fear this.  Rather Just let it wash over you.   

    Making a response to a forum thread as an attempt to diffuse a complicated topic to hopefully rid seekers of confusion, while invoking your own simplified interpretation of the complicated topic, while signalling that your own contribution is simplifying and not further complicating, is what is complicated.


  12. 32 minutes ago, aurum said:

    I think transmissions are mostly BS though.

    Transmission is just a fancy word for tuning into and reacting to what you're perceiving (and when the object is another human, it's often called empathy). It's not a magical thing. I feel like I have to constantly say that things are not magical 🤔

    As for teachers "actively" transmitting as in creating an intention and a concominant effect, I don't see a problem there. It's like when a girl looks at you like "😏". That's them creating an intention and actively amplifying whatever transmission that was going on passively. And while the teacher might be performing a more subtle move than the girl, even for the girl, some guys are notoriously bad at picking up such subtle cues ("was she hitting on me?") ;).

     

    32 minutes ago, aurum said:

    I've easily done over a thousand hours of meditation and that's also not my experience.

    I do not get any sense of unwinding energy. And that has not seemed to hamper my awakening at all.

    Do you have spontaneous awakenings outside meditation? Do you feel anywhere close to making the awakened state your baseline state?


  13. 1 hour ago, Inliytened1 said:

    I think people get lost in the protocol of meditation and thus miss the boat of meditation.  It's meant to stop all thought.   But it ends up creating more thought when you build a science around it.  Just keep it simple.  No need to deconstruct because meditation will do that for you.  Sit.  And sit without thought.  If you want to have thoughts which you ultimately will, be meta aware of them and then let them go.  It's about self reflection and turning Consciousness back onto itself.

    You just explained deconstruction. I just gave specific examples of deconstruction. That is not to complicate but to illustrate, although that will also be misunderstood. All pointers will be misunderstood. Yes, sit and notice that when you let things go, sitting becomes easier. It's that simple. But most are unaware how deep letting go, goes. And that depth can be illustrated.

    Dealing with pointers is an eternal struggle that you do not get out of by "not complicating things". Even simplifying things in the form of a pointer is to complicate things. The very act of pointing is inherently misleading. But some may benefit of certain pointers more than others and at different points in time. That's all that can be said. For those who point, you just throw spaghetti against the wall and see if it sticks. Or you beat them with a Zen stick. That's the game. If you don't want to play, don't.


  14. 2 minutes ago, aurum said:

    I read vibes from teachers.

    I would not say I have experiences of "subtle energy".

    Shaktipat from Esmann does nothing for me. No effect.

    What do the vibes consist of? How do they make you feel?

    Also, have you generally tried any energy-based meditations (devotional, kundalini, third eye, etc.)? I think if you learn to provoke and "open up" so to speak your experience to these things, it might be easier to identify "transmission" from teachers.

    You how some women just destroy your attention towards anything else? That's kinda what Jan Esmann has. If you think of sexual energy but just spreading it across the body, that's one form of energy that you can notice (and a powerful one), and that's what Jan Esmann creates in people. But also just small twitches and movements in your physical body, like subtle fluctuations in muscle tension in your legs, that's another form for energy.

    All these things have a natural "end" to them, and they want to go "up and out" so to speak. When people speak of the benefits of nofap for spirituality, partially it's because you let the energy go up and out instead of down and out, literally. If I go long enough with sexual activity, I will literally feel the energy instead of trying to exit through my lower areas moving up and into my brain and enhancing my mental clarity.

    Unwinding energy in meditation is generally about letting all the usual activities that you spend your energy on (down and out) to the side and you let the energy simply work itself out the way it wants when not engaging in any (gross) activities (up and out).


  15. 4 hours ago, Davino said:

    @Carl-Richard Thanks for sharing the Martin Ball video. It was interesting to watch.

    That video in itself is an energetic dose and a half.

     

    4 hours ago, Davino said:

    I didn't know him, def a genetic freak.

    I feel so good just after watching his shaktipat. Good stuff.

    He is next to things you only hear about in stories from long dead teachers. But we have him live on camera.


  16. 34 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

    Does this simply mean placing your attention on it?

    Yes, sorry for being poetic lol.

     

    35 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

    Do you touch your skin to create a physical tingling sensation?

    Yes, lightly.

     

    35 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

    How do you know it’s energy and not just physical sensation?

    No difference. Sensation is energy. It's just when the sensation follows a certain dynamic pattern or movement in your body, it's more illustrative to call it energy (because energy is involved with movement).

    When working with meditation, realist/materialist assumptions are virtually irrelevant. You don't need to think about whether there exists energy "out there" independent of you. That's only a distraction, something to deconstruct. You want to deal with what is readily apparent, right here, right now.

     

    38 minutes ago, Sugarcoat said:

    In the past when I’ve done practice I used to meditate and sometimes my blood flow would get kinda blocked in my butt and it would start hurting a little. And I lowkey found that if I placed my attention on it and held it there, it kinda changed my relationship to the sensation and eased the pain.

    I have also done practice from eckhart tolle where you place and hold attention to one body part at a time then the whole body at once. You’ll feel the vibrational energy in each body part and it grows when you put your attention on it then you feel the entire bodies energy it’s quite calming

    Also during sleep paralysis I’ve felt all sorts of energies I think there’s something spiritual about it there too

    I see. I'm talking about very concrete energy/sensations that you can observe right now, but they're subtle, so it helps to stay still. It's nothing magical: it's literally tiny movements across your body.


  17. 21 hours ago, Natasha Tori Maru said:

    All I know is I am DOING this - I can tell when I do it, and I am gradually working on halting this in its tracks. This whole process is what we have been taught our entire lives - and I have 39 years of this habit to break >.<

    It's breakable by just practicing regularly and with the aim of letting go of things. Gary Weber did it with 20k hours of practice while working as a head of R&D in materials science with a quarter billion dollar budget. But if you want to speed it up, better be unemployed and make it your full-time job.