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Rock musicians/bands/styles that reflect MBTI types (at least aesthetically). I picked the examples based on how I experience the music, but it might be slightly biased as I'm also familiar with the musicians in question and their "official" MBTI type (taken from personality database). ENTP ("too many intellectual ideas"): Jethro Tull Gentle Giant Frank Zappa What is so great about this style of music is that it's unpredictable and at times unconventional. This combination means that the unconventional parts tend to get quickly saved by some contrasting section before it gets too weird, which is a testament to the fast-paced and apologetic nature of the ENTP cognitive style. ISFP ("feels"): David Gilmour (Pink Floyd solo guitarist, songwriter) Known for his beautiful bends and silky smooth voice. Very embodied guitar player and singer. The perfect encapsulation of classic, soulful playing. INTJ ("deliberate and elaborate design"): Roger Waters (Pink Floyd bassist and songwriter mastermind). Arguably the most ambitious concept album in history. Steven Wilson (solo artist and Porcupine Tree frontman). SW just has a god-given ability to create immersive soundscapes and intricate, deliberate compositions with an eye for the tiniest of details. Great songwriter and audio engineer. Fun fact: David Gilmour is a huge SW fan. Tool A song constructed around the Fibonacci sequence (compositionally and lyrically). Do I need to say more? INTP ("abstract, well-polished, and quirky ideas"): King Crimson This song is built around the clever use of dual guitars and odd meters. You'll know exactly what I mean when you hear it. An absolutely groundbreaking technical innovation for the prog scene. For instance, Tool is heavily inspired by this aspect of KC. INFJ ("soul-touching"): Opeth This song in particular is the perfect representation of melancholy. It seemlessly paints the picture of a lonely, rainy day. The INFJ telling you exactly what you need to hear. Fun fact: SW is best buddies with frontman Mikael Akerfeldt. They've released one collaboration album, and SW has worked as producer/mixer for Opeth. Akerfeldt has contributed with guitar riffs to some Porcupine Tree songs and has also been featured as a solo player on a song. Cynic Fun fact: this song features a soundbite of Alan Watts. ENFP ("too many interesting ideas"): Yes Yes has a similar vibe to the ENTP songs, but it's less "computationally dense" (as Frank Zappa would've put it) and a bit more emotionally well-rounded. INFP ("authenticity"): Camel An emotional exploration of creativity and self-expression. The solo guitar is similar to the ISFP embodied soulfulness, but here it's less jammy and more integrated into the larger composition.

I couldn't find a suitable place to post this, so I guess I'll start this mega-thread. I know most of the submissions will be inaccurate, but that is unavoidable. Post videos of what you think are good examples of MBTI types. Explanations including cognitive functions are appreciated. My favorite one: Noam Chomsky (INFJ) explains why he doesn't like Slavoj Zizek and Michel Foucault (both ENTP), shaming their Ne-Ti tendencies towards obscure theories and using fancy words while asking "what use does it have?", all in 4 blistering minutes: I forgot he was INFJ, not INTJ. Still, even though Te is most commonly associated with the statement of "what use does it have?", Fe is also an extroverted judging function, which can have similar expressions as Te in a lot of cases (especially in how he talks about the importance of being understood over using fancy words — Fe caring about other people). And this is the most ENTP conversation I've ever come across: exploring topics at the speed of light, Ne>Ti (no debate screeching):

Not much of a dive, more like a belly flop.

All why-questions are riddled with assumptions that are grounded in humancentric survival which God is not limited by, so you should not expect a straightforward answer to your question.

When I first discovered meditation, I meditated 3-6 hours a day and couldn't stop thinking about awakening. You either instinctively know that there is something there or you don't. There is no one that can convince you to pursue awakening but yourself.

18:17 This segment includes the work of the organization that I used to work at (RIP Kurt Oddekalv). I've actually been onboard of the boat shown in the documentary with an Orca on it

This is a strawman of spirituality. It's intense, ferocious, active, calm, at peace; all at once. See through the duality of opposites.

Differentiate between relative and Absolute good.

I just started reading this book which gives insight into the differences between collective and individual action and the shared importance of both approaches: https://www.amazon.com/Community-Psychology-Pursuit-Liberation-Well-Being/dp/1137464097 Psychology has a collective component which may be emphasized or understated depending on your values, and treating individual responsibility as an isolated entity may increase the tendency towards victim blaming. Here is a quote talking about the Community Psychology approach to framing problems associated with immigration: JBP is a clinical psychologist, so naturally he is biased towards the individualistic approach, and his conservative ideas about personal responsibility is complementary to that. Here is one more example of how a Community Psychologist approach contrasts with the strictly individual approach (where again, the example is about immigration): So essentially, what JBP has to work on is to become an ally for marginalized groups (any group that experiences lower status and power) and to actively participate in or at least recognize the importance of the collective, structural approach.

It's almost like a virus... ?

Johnny Sins on semen retention - 15 years younger ?

There is no separation.

Stage Orange co-opting Green as a survival strategy.

Then if you get too good at that, people will perceive you as a snake oil salesman, "it's too good to be true" etc. It's never enough ?

In front of that audience, he is right to say no.

Yeah, but imagine having no prison system at all. Be careful with what you light on fire.

The time he did talk about climate change, he mentioned some study that said people become more environmentally conscious as their country becomes richer, and that there is not much you can do other than to wait for that to happen to the third world countries. He also said "you want to get rid of oil? Hah – good luck with that!". I don't remember any other mindblowing insights from that video lol

Let's say Ted was your roommate and he figures out that the apartment will probably deterioate in a couple hundred years and that his incredible genius got him to conclude that it's incredibly unlikely that we'll ever be able to fix the house. His solution is to burn down the house (anarcho-primitivism) and kill his roommates (who disagrees with his ideas) so that he can live in a tent alone. That is how deluded this guy is. Megalomaniacal ideas and anti-social behavior is a really bad mix. If you believe you have all the answers and nobody is listening, at least don't make a plan that includes killing people. That is an obscenely narcissistic evaluation of your own mind and biases.

which is stupid and evil.

You could say that at this stage, the problem is that "the collective" is not collectivist enough, as its members are participating in and perpetuating rivalrous games. The optimistic attitude to that would be that this will change over time.

I think the overarching point is that JBP uses his ideas about personal responsibility etc. to shut down collectivism in a sort of exclusionary "this is too idealistic and not feasible in reality" kind of way. It's the cynical attitude that he uses to dismiss various forms of social constructivism while protecting his conservative underbelly.

It's not what you'll possess It's how you will express The essence of you It's not the wage you earn It's about the things you learn And the love that you feel It's not what you'll conceal It's all that you'll reveal That will make you be you The perfection of you Now the shadows are long And the cities are lost to rain And when you wake up every day To find nothing's changed But before you can speak You will learn that it's all the same And the dreams that you will have Are public domain And the country lanes are decked With the time to come It's not the years you pass It's about the moments that last Forever in you Now the shadows are long And the cities are lost to rain When you wake up every day To find nothing's changed But before you can speak You will learn that it's all the same And the dreams that you will have Are public domain Now the time that is gone Doesn't matter to anyone When the country lanes are decked With the time yet to come Well the world is exhausted And the wreckage is all around But the arc of your life Could still be profound Don't be afraid to die Don't be afraid to be alive Don't be afraid to die Don't be afraid to be alive Don't be afraid

The meta understanding to that is that artificial man-made technology is also perfect as it is.

Well, if I could write a letter to Ted, it would say this: you can't feasibly revert society back to a pre-technological/pre-agricultural state, so why the bombs, Ted?

Yes, there can be a kind of naive optimism to seeing the world through this type of teleological lens of "everything is progress", but there is nothing that tells us whether we will get to Tier 2 before it's too late or whether Tier 2 will be successful at all in the long run. But the idea that these ideas cannot manifest themselves in society is a bit too pessimistic in my view. This idea that Tier 2 requires expert knowledge and genius level cognition to arrive at is only true if we're talking about those who pioneered and discovered these new altitudes. Once they're fleshed out, packaged and distributed through the collective consciousness, that isn't necessarily the case. I mean just look at how fast all these young people on a forum they discovered a couple of years ago can become so welcoming of such ideas (meanwhile they might not embody it fully yet). Imagine if not just their local internet community was pro Tier 2 but that their school teachers, healthcare workers and politicians were pointing to these values. It's hard to imagine that they wouldn't embody Tier 2 to some extent.