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@Emerald in the tribes era, the political power was quite balanced, sometimes even skewed towards women in matrilineal and matrilocal tribes. But that doesn't mean there wasn't a division of labour. You had to be quite stupid to not have that division. It would be harder to survive without it. Only after the invention of the plow and mass agriculture men got significantly more power. They started to accumulate capital. "Cap" = head in romanian language. Heads of cattle.

Same. Money, roof over head and food can she fix herself. What I do is making her feel safe and taken care of. A feeling that if something unwanted happens and she is tired etc. it is me who jumps and fixes it. Of course initiative, responsibility, fun, and all that good stuff that she loves.

They will always use the exceptions in order to argue e against the norm. Of course you become masculine when there is no masculine entity to protect you. To make you feel safe, lead and taken care of. E.g. most long relationships

Great example. Obama-Trump shift too.

And even if they would have pushed for good stuff, they have to understand that progress will never happen overnight. And if they push for too much progress, they might end up with regress due to ego backlash.

Who said your concerns presented aren't important? Meanwhile relationships are a bunch of crap. Men are getting worse and worse, women are choosing to live alone. Far right is raising because the left is making clear mistakes. Want to have less of thost things you are concerned about? Fix men. You will never fix men if you don't understand masculinity and demonize it instead. It is not enough to be "aware". You need to act properly too.

Nice guys suck ass too. They are boring, manipulative in a more subtle way and women don't really get something much better if they choose them. They rather bite the bullet an choose the fun guy, at least they will have fun for a while, while risking being mistreated. But nice guys can severely mistreat women in long term relationships too. My father is a nice guy and he tricked my mother into choosing him with this nice guy technique. After a few years he became more and more toxic. Nice guys are toxic because they are immature, they don't understand themselves, forget about understanding women. But it is true that nowadays with this broken social environment and social media, women lose lots of good mating opportunities. Because of the choice anxiety and superficial assessments.

Leo, I remember you saying that if a woman becomes "too mature", "too technical", "too logical"... she becomes less attractive to you. She basically becomes a man so to speak. https://youtu.be/v08NV8wN3zY?is=n4MxeZTJtIA-2Pvy But think about this. For example the woman presented above: Mariana Mazzucato; is IMO a true Tier 2 woman, and we can find many such examples (maybe a younger, physically attractive Tier 2 woman). Women that have such a high intelligence that they easily can learn about femininity and masculinity, learn how attraction and relationships work, and therefore learn how to "switch sides" so to speak. With switching sides I mean, when they interact with their partner, they are going into their feminine side. They let go, relax, and let the man be the brain, while she is taking a break from all her intellectual efforts. Such a woman is tired of all the time being in her masculine, so she will happily and naturally feel the need tot take a break. Not just for the relationship's sake. And the other feminine qualities that we, men, love can also be easily learned: e.g. playful and cute behaviour. Now the big challenge for such a woman is to really find a man that matches her maturity and intelligence. But think about this: what if you, Leo, meet a young, attractive equivalent of Mariana Mazzucato? Supposing that she also is strongly educated about attraction and femininity/masculinity, what would be the reasons you wouldn't find her attractive? Personally I am am more attracted to a mature, technical woman that can discuss ideas and can appreciate my intellectual value. Such a woman can deeply see my value, such a woman can be such a fun companion. Such a woman can offer me much more than sex. The big IF is that if she will be able to trust my lead and competence instead of reversing the polarity. If not, then yes, I would lose attraction.

I won't make the mistake of entertaining this kind of nonsense again. You have my block.

Humans evolved their biology in Africa, primarily across East and South Africa, while bonobos evolved exclusively in the central African rainforests south of the Congo River.

With few exceptions like bonobos. Bonobos are less specialized based on sex because they afforded to. They evolved in a very resource rich area with very few challenges and enemies. They don't eat meat either. Now the woke mob would jump and say: "maybe we also are like bonobos!" No we're not dumbass...

Yes I wanted to point towards how we need to understand this stuff in order to develop as people, as the whole person, not just attraction and relationships. Relationships being shit is nothing new. Mainly because of toxic masculinity, that created all sorts of secondary problems. What is new is the transition from toxic masculinity to no masculinity. You had the macho guys, now you have the soy-boys. We basically notice women taking men's role and "men" plummeting into immaturity.

Pick-up can improve your chances of finding a suitable woman, but is is not a guarantee. Few conscious women go clubbing at night, and there are just a few of them roaming around on the streets too. In northern Europe they are not very happy to talk to you randomly on the street. A good shot can be Green festivals or Green hippie places. But I notice women being more and more avoidant of unknown men unfortunately. If they dont know you from somewhere, bad luck. The other way is social circles. But I am not a fan of that. I am an introvert and do not tolerate too much social shit.

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@Leo Gura And it is not only about dealing with women. I also have a problem with women. It is very hard to find a woman with whom I can really connect at a deep level. You also have this problem (If it still bothers you). Sure we can have sex, but after you reach a certain level of consciousness, sex is empty. Shallow relationships do not satisfy you anymore. This is why you are single. These poor dudes have no clue about life as a whole. Who they are, what they want...

Sure. I did not say that. They have the same problem. They did not embody masculinity, they just talk about masculinity. Or they embodied toxic juvenile masculinity. It happens everywhere but here is more pronounced.

Yes, I was too black and white there. You basically learn Green stuff plus some woke agenda. But this men/women, masculine-feminine is a very big thing. If you get it wrong, you are quite fucked. You have to come and live in Sweden to understand what I am talking about. Poor dudes. The feminists can cry and protest as much as they want, but if they don't want to understand how men work and what masculinity is, they won't stop the domestic violence, the rapes, the loneliness. They cannot divorce from half of society either.

@Thought Art imagine you invest 3-5 years of your life and $100.000+ in tuition and living costs just to be brainwashed with that shit. Not just you'll be in debt almost your whole life, but most probably you'll never accept that what you studied there is religion. You pay a fortune just to be dumbified for life.

"Studies suggest" ...*eye-rolling* Many times you can replace it with: "our opinion is:..."

Women had better stuff to do. Plenty of veggies and fruits to be picked up and children to be taken care of. Of course they could learn to hunt if just they had time for that. When you have no men around to bond with, you either take in more men from other tribes or bond with one of those where there. You had no choice, when survival is at stakes, you compromise.

@Leo Gura what is your prognosis with the West? Are we going to have a woke dystopia phase, or are we going to recognise the post-modern trap soon enough? Because right now we are at an inflexion point where Blue and Orange is radicalising Green and Green is radicalising Blue and Orange

It is even embarrassing that we need to tell this to very educated people again and again. My grandma who barely could read and write knew this. Because she lived those times. And she told us how it was back then. But we are too arrogant to listen to these people. We take it for granted how easy we have it now. And how hard people had it even 100 years ago. The problem is not that we are different, the problem is that men got too much power in society since the agricultural revolution. We need to come back to a more equalitarian society where both perspectives are taken into account. We don't need to switch to the other extreme where the female perspective becomes more important and create a woke dystopia where a woman crying is good enough judicial proof to send someone to jail.

Cool, thanks for that!

I am afraid they did not have rifles back then when our biologies formed hundreds of thousands of years ago.

@something_else you just need some common sense to realize that women did not evolve to have hunting and defence/attack as their main thing. You just need to know if tribes fought with each other for resources (which we know), how many children did women have (lots), how strong their bodies are compared to men (weaker). You don't send women to risk their lives to hunt dangerous animals or defend the tribe. A woman was veeery precious. A man can impregnate 100 women maybe in one year. A woman can bear max 2-3 babies at once. And bearing the baby, lactation, mens periods made her body even more vulnerable.