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The thing is we will go green anyway. China has no woke shit in it but it still has more electric cars and I predict that they will have more and more renewable energy etc. That without any woke nonsense. Because it makes total sense to do that. Why do people buy Teslas and solar panels for their houses? Mostly because it is cool, cheaper in the long run, cleaner, better... Jeremy Rifkin predicts we will switch to renewables by the end of the decade.

Lots of immigrants results in stronger far-right. Stupid climate policies results in weaker green party. Opression of expression leads to weaker far-left. It is an FU from the public, something like: "You don't change our country as you like and you don't tell us what to believe and what products to consume."

They don't want to leave the left, but they long for a more mature left. In Sweden I finally observe that the social-democrats are coming with this alterantive, but in many countries, that is still being waited for. In most Western EU you have: -the far-right: immigrants are the problem narrative sponsored by the rich in order to shift the public focus away from them -the center-right neoliberalism, which is also helping the rich getting richer and making society even shittier. -the center-left: labour/social-democrats who try to play safe and compromise a lot with neoliberals -the far-left woke, which we know already how they work. I even observe a movement against pride, which is unheard of. Maybe parents had enough of their kids indentifying with ambulances instead of focusing on their studies.

Basic unconsnciousness. This was done by Red and Blue people for thousands of years. We had the masculine opression, now we have the feminine opression.

Biggest problems with the far left: 1. Endless whining and insulting conservatives, which leads to more conservattivism, racism and sexism. 2. Lack of understanding of power dynamics. They don't get that hierarchies are part of life and they will always be. Not undertstanding this leads to frustrations, bad decisions, bad proposals etc. 3. Too much progress at once. Good luck convincing religious fanatics that gender disphoria is not a mental illness. 4. Inefficient and dumb climate action. They should push for green innovation instead of endless whining and telling people to consume less or some nonsense like that. 5. Lack of masculine integration. WIhout rationalism/systems thinking/dettachment from empathy, there is no chance for success in today's world. 6. Lack of understanding of how men work. Men are not women. 7. Us vs Them mentality and arrogance. We are always right and those who are not with us are against us. You are either a gender studies dummy or a Red Pill macho. Not understanding that there is a THIRD, better alternative. 8. Not focusing on fixing wealth inequality. Instead they focus on dividing the society even more with identity politics. 9. Not understanding that you cannot just take all the possible refugees in the world in your country. In developed countries with many political parties, there is the center-left alternative: the social-democrats, which are a more mature verion of the left. Less whining, more careful progress, more in touch with power dynamics and systems thinking.

So cool to see Leo taking intellectual risks. Even if he can be wrong because it is something that was never done before, he still takes the risk. This is something that I very rarely experience in real life. People just playing it safely especially with people they just met. It is always me who takes the risk to push the conversation to the next level with some teasy jokes or some deep ideas in order to create some connection. North Europeans became some nations of boring pussies.

Maybe it sounds good on paper but it might not work in real life for most sports.

Still controversial. Many trans-men take T which is considered doping in performance sports.

@Leo Gura this is the epistemology of a person shortly after they WOKE up from a hangover

Minute 17:00. In the feminist utopia: 40% of women exposed to violence. Now of course they will double down and say it is because of not enough gender equality. WHO the hell do you think will molest more children and beat more women? A creepy lonely incel underdeveloped nice guy, or a developed mature masculine man? And this is why they will go beyond the evidence based justice system to mob justice.

I have an old friend who is a Tate fanboy and he mostly became so fanatic because of wokism 😆 so actually woke people increase the amount of Tate people hahah.

Nailed it. They don't get that there is a THIRD better option in most cases. It is either with us or with the "toxic" people. Leo is a genius man. So glad I found these real intellectuals who fixed my cognitive conflicts I had about society. Woke is just a bunch of immature kids who fuck up society. It started with good ideas and well intended people, but now all the really mature people(myself included) separated from that and joined the mature center-left social-democrats who are in touch with survival and real power dynamics. "But Alex they speak about equality and minority rights..." Wow, we should care about gay rights and women's rights... Yea we know that, no shit Sherlock. How do we fix that? Should we brainwash men into a crippled underdeveloped state so we can dominate them? The policies that Iceland applies in preschool and even in school right now will be seen as child abuse when the society will reach Tier 2.

Good points. But lt in Case of climate action both alternatives are needed. It is just that the climate protesters do not protest for the right things. We should protest for faster investment in green energy from both states and privates. To give incentives/tax cuts for those who do it instead of whining about how bad the fossil giants are.

They are just afraid and underdeveloped not agreeable. It just forces women to decide and do everything. You might argue that this can reduce conflicts and wars. Well that will be a good argument. Even so, you won't have all the countries reach that "woke" level in the coming future. Make your country faminine and you will be conquered by a masculine country. Until the whole geo-political world becomes feminine, my bones will be dust. Until then we will figure out the problem and fix it in a Tier 2 way not in this retarded way. And Healthy masculine developed men are not violent, I might argue that nice guys are more violent due to their underdevelopement. But yea, geo-politically the violence will be reduced because those men will not decide shit in that country, women will.

How the hell are soft men beneficial for society? No person with a sane mind and a normal hair color can say this. When men are shit, they suffer, women suffer. People suffering leads to healthcare system costs, lack of productivity, lack of creativity, mental illness. They are not even soft. They become violent in A relationship because of the accumulation of frustration and lack of understanding how women work. I talked to a Swedish policeman about domestic violence: as high as in any other western country These feminitards shoot themselves in the foot by making men soft.

Birthrate is good in Sweden, and could be even better if we switch to 4 day work week. Birthrate is dictated by time and money. Yes there are solutions, it is not rocket science after you understand how biology works. Teach children about sex hormone dynamics, femininity vs. masculinity. And more, I put all in my book which comes soon.

Birthrate is good in Sweden, and could be even better if we switch to 4 day work week. Birthrate is dictated by time and money. You dont agree with me what? Have no good argument? mind your business.

Change always happens through protest of a group who felt opressed, misunderstood, exploited or other conflict based method. We spread the word and those who are ready will receive it. I. The same way women spread their concerns 100 years ago and now they got their freedom. So in case of societal freedoms we have to protest, some will get offended and I don't give a shit. Some might say I exaggerate, that's because they don't live in Sweden. Or... Iceland Look how developed the girls at the end are compared to the guys besides, this is the shit I deal with every day.

In some sense we should mind our own business. In another, if everyone only minded their own business 1000 years ago, we would have still been in the dark ages. Not that our ages are much brighter.

Improving yourself is not "matching a masculine standard". And nobody here encouraged men to be "hyper-masculine". You are the only one here mentioning this shit. We argue that men need challenge, meaning, direction in life in order to develop. I just say that this gender blindess ideology of treating everyone the same is NOT working. How many times do I have to tell you? It is clear that you are frustrated by those Red Pill retards and JP/AT fans and project that onto me here. That viking line was a JOKE. But yea, the "hyper" feminists don't get jokes. Anyway, I should shut up about this subject among women because they don't get it and nobody wins. Some women can become great intellectuals (eg. Teal Swan) but so many should just leave this shit up to us and just be cute and enjoy life.

Europe is so fragmented and their people are so spoiled by their welfare states that they will wake up poor soon. So many people working bullshit jobs that dont bring real value to society it's mind boggling. Trillions of dollars of loss in inefficiency.

They won't say that "men are not masculine enough" as masculinity has become so debated that People can't agree anymore on what masculinity actually is. They will say instead: men are boring, lack initiative, lack drive, lack charm, are lazy etc.

I was thinking the same thing as I watched more videos of his. Yea, I mean that survivor analogy, if it really is real, is quite interesting. Otherwise he is fishy I mean he is a marketer and his audience is a bunch of incels. To be expected.

My friend, you pointed to toxic masculinity while I didn't. We have two big types of men in society: Macho guys: toxic masculinity, manipulative behaviour, lack of empathy, laziness, suppressed feminine side, selfishness, violence, lack of refinement, lack of education, disgusting even(some of them). You referred to these guys here as "the masculine" ones, which I don't. These are a juvenile version of masculinity and women don't want that. Some of them are fun and confident and dare to lead which some women appreciate but they don't want the rest of the toxic qualities. Nice guys: immature, boring as hell, afraid to lead, afraid to express their emotions and thoughts, etc etc... these are the guys who lack masculinity in any sense. Most women dislike these guys but they have no other options in sight so they choose them, because maybe they don't want to be beaten and bullied by machos. The thread is about THESE guys. Machos are so obviously toxic that I don't even care talking about them. Very few guys present a healthy version of masculinity which women want: discipline, personal development, style, leadership, empathy, kindness, courtesy, containment, humour, purpose, drive... I can't imagine an emotionally healthy straight feminine woman who will ever choose a nice guy over a mature, healthy masculine guy. Maybe only those women who were masively brainwashed into wokism or they have some trauma around being led by a man.(ex: daddy issues). THIS version of masculinity does NOT appear out of the blue as you might think. This appears when the young adolescent boy is either trained into it by a skilled masculine man, or he meets massive adversity which will forge him into such a man(this happened to me). Teal explains clearly the difference between niceness and kindness

It's funny how much progressive people study power but they understand it even less than others.