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5-meo-dmt report. 27mg plugged. I start to black out at 30mg, so I go slightly under. I layed on a yoga mat and let it happen. No resistance, smooth sailing. Slight body discomfort including a minor chest pain and elevated heart - which was slightly distracting. I did need to let go a bit of that. Over the last few weeks, I’ve been contemplating the nature of awareness. I seem to be stuck in the “observer plus object” stage. I’ve felt close to the “consciousness is everything” stage - yet I kept defaulting back to conceptual / intellectual mindspaces. Well, this trip gave some direct experience. I’ve had experience of observing oneness before, yet here there was no separate observer. Everything kept appearing from nothing. Yet, the appearances were within an infinite number of appearances. Thus, it wasn’t real in a sense. Different beings and animals would experience different appearances - yet underlying the appearances was a vast nothing, void - from which everything appeared as one form of an infinite number of possibilities. This feels sooo far advanced for my current stage. 5-meo is by far the strongest tool I’ve encountered. How can I integrate and anchor this into life. Meditate, contemplate on it? Do more 5-meo? I’m already starting to feel like my mind is trying to conceptualize it and that I’m losing the magnitude of it. A couple phrases I gained direct experience: deconstructing reality and rest in the awareness

@MrDmitriiV No technique will get you there. It’s not to be found in the future or in any place. There is no place to go. It’s waking up right now. The vast majority of people cannot fully wake up in one moment, so we use these techniques to relax the mind and allow for mini awakenings, or insights. Yet, they always happen now. Smoking a baked potato everyday with genuine humility to deepen your knowing of truth would be more beneficial than doing chakra work with a closed, stubborn mind. We are not building a bridge here. We are becoming aware of a conditioned mind and letting go, then letting go of more and more. There is then an expansion. If you resist expansion and cling and identify to contracted thoughts - you will stay contracted. If you are really serious about waking up, I suggest considering a psychedelic - it would blast through all these beliefs and identification with thoughts. But surrending for a mind clutching to logic, identity and beliefs can be quite unsettling.

@Cortex This looks alluring to me as well. I find something intriguing with many forms of bizarre.

@Chrissy j I group ego/self/personality/character/story all together. They are all so contracted inside an expansive space that I find it distracting to get bogged down in the minutia. I've had enlightening/awakenings of various qualities and depths. The ego/personality has always returned and there have been various levels of awareness of the ego/personality. It has been an ongoing process of de-personalization, which has included beliefs and deep-seeded perceptions (e.g. objects in space). At times, there is an "I AM" presence observing the character. At times the character is used as a "tool" to function in a relative world, then put back on the shelf. Just like tools come in handy to build a bridge. From an I AM/awareness perspective, there is no more attachment to an opinion than to a blade of grass. An opinion is simply an appearance and when examined closely, empty. Opinions/beliefs can be deeply embedded into the personality structure and it can take work over time unravel some of them. At least for me. Yet, the liberation is undeniable.

The ego is no more attainable than the images appearing on a movie screen.

Over a year old and only 79 views?!

If most people are observant, they would have security and comfort at the top.

Cortex ventures deep into a conceptual Vortex.

Realize you are whole and conplete in this, and every, moment just the way it is - however it is.

Beginner mind, Zen mind

@SoonHei For me, an initial stage was to observe thoughts and realize I am not a thought. There is something aware of the thought. Yet, this awareness is no-thing. It is not any particular thing, so not a thing. My current stage is getting to know that awareness. Awakened beings I’ve listened to suggest the next stage is a realization that consciousness/awareness is everything. There is no separation. My mind likes to intellectualize it as a concept, yet I don’t experience it in my direct experience. I see me here and the table over there. I’ve found vision is overwhelmingly object-space oriented. However, I’ve found sound is MUCH weaker at this. For me, this has been a next step after I’ve had the witnessing of thoughts. The realization came with a bird chirp, yet works for any sound. One day while meditating, with my eyes closed, a thought arose in my mind and I obseved it. Then something else (a sound) arose in my mind and I observed it. Prior to giving either of them any meaning, I noticed both appearances were remarkably similar. Like *really* similiar. I saw how my brain was conditioned to define the appearance as a bird chirp that occurrd outside of my self. Yet in my direct experience, the appearance of the thought and chirp were both in awareness. There was no inside vs outside. When I let go and just observed the two appearances, it’s hard to observe differences. I need to *add* on meaning / identification to create the experience of relevance and separation. In a relative, personal world, thoughts about my career, life purpose, ethics etc will seem to have more relevance than a trivial bird chirp. Yet, if I really get down to their substance I sense something else. I can enter this space only with sounds and my eyes closed in meditation. Vision has a much deeper object - space orientation.

A lot of communication is beyond the words. Tone of voice, subtle facial expressions and body language factor in more than the words. One could ask a question with genuine curiosity and a desire to connect with someone. One could ask the exact same question with condensation and a desire to be superior than another. I’ve found if I speak from my heart things tend to flow ok - even if I speak a bit awkwardly at times

Or, you could be creating a story in a timeline. Another view: one moment you experience love another moment you experience hate. Add in some memories, imagination, beliefs, and social conditioning and one could create lots of different stories. Life can be read and interpreted many ways.

One moment while meditating I realized a thought that appeared had no more relevance than a bird chirp that appeared. Afterwards, it became easier to let go of grasping thoughts

Great report, thanks. 5-meo-dmt experiences can vary depending on dose, mindset and setting.

Or drop everything and allow life to flow.

A week? Did you spend time learning the Kriya techniques that come prior to the chakra work? Or did you rush into the chakras? I’m two weeks into daily Kriya and still practicing the first few lessons as described in the book (that come before chakra). There is a lot of breathing and concentration practice prior to the chakra work.

I know I am observing when a thought has no more relevance than a bird chirp

@Chrissy j For me, the personality structure runs deep. Being aware and letting go of beliefs has been part of the process, yet it goes deeper. Emotions run deeper than beliefs. I’ve found it helpful to learn/understand my conditioned mind-body

I question if that’s true

@Hearteker what is there PRIOR to your thought that life is pointless?

Locked for overly political

Paradoxically, it's also one of the simplest, easiest things. It's always here and now. We don't need to go anywhere or do anything. Unless we do. And most of us do (including myself).

I like to mix it up. Leo for the intellectual approach. Lisa Cairns for the heart approach. Adyashanti for a hybrid / humor approach. Adriene Mishler for a mind-body approach. The four of you keep me on my toes!

@David Turcot Too many steps removed. What is occurring PRIOR to your conceptualization of what god is?