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@DeannaDevil The human mind gets conditioned to distraction and wanting some thing not here and now. It can take a while to de-condition that tendency. Watching a butterfly dance through the air and pollinate flowers is absolutely fascinating. It is so unbelievably beautiful and mind-blowing. Why don't most mind-body's notice this? Perhaps because they are distracted, or worrying, or thinking about how something is not enough or how they want some thing. With this orientation, the mind-body will miss out on the magnificence of life that is right in front of us. Here and Now.

@Mafortu In the beginning and in the end, is nothing. Emptiness. From that emptiness arises distinctions. Trees, leaves, grass, cars, anger, love, good, bad, me, you and on and on. Intellectually, the mind creates categories, separation and meaning. What lies prior to all of that? As well, there is the intellectual thinking and trying to figure things out, and there is the emotional and experiential. Notice how your mind is more engaged in intellectual dynamics, rather than experience. What is your mind-body experience with such matters? (without any thought or analysis) Just two years ago, I went through a stage in which awakening and spiritual growth involved love, connection and bliss as well as insecurity, anxiety and terror. I often spoke about how people seek only the love, connection and bliss in spirituality and try to deny the insecurity, anxiety and terror of spirituality. They are two sides of the same coin. Yet as I worked through all of these dynamics, attachment and identification to beliefs and the personal story began to dissolve. What remains once The Story is no longer the main act in town? Ime, the insecurity, anxiety and terror began to dissolve and a more pure form of peace and love had space to emerge. That's not to say that my mind-body no longer has physiological sensations of insecurity and anxiety. Yet, there is an awareness of how these thoughts and sensations are associated with a personal self.

I would let go, detach and observe the mind-body. Trying to push away unpleasant feelings and seek pleasant feelings often just reinforces the dynamic.

Looks like a Turquoise bud about to bloom. Just in time for Spring. ? ?

I understand the question, yet there is no opening for the deeper answer. I have already answered your question at the human level. Based on an imaginary construct of enlightenment, the answer is “no”.

@tecladocasio Be aware when the mind assumes it knows what is understood. This is a major block to learning and expansion.

I’d give the same answer

If by “fully enlightened” you are suggesting a thing a person attains or becomes, the answer would be “no”. It’s like asking: “Is a drop of water fully ocean?”.

@Ghauss There is ego need-based seeking. As you said, it is inherently meaningless and can only provide temporary states of relief. There is also a deeper seeking energy that is not ego need based. It is post-egoic. It is a motivating desire to experience the magnificence of life.

@Mezanti The mind-body often resists letting go of separation. For me, there is resistance to what is unknown and that I’ll go to the point of no return. My mind-body has relaxed with more nondual experience. A gradual knowing that nothing “bad” will happen and that it won’t be stuck in a nondual state of consciousness permanently.

I would point them to nondual glimpses they’ve already had in their direct experience. I would use as few concepts as possible.

@Tony 845 Pace yourself for a marathon, not a sprint ☺️

Only if a panther is chasing the person in a dark jungle. I hope you realize that each “what’s it like to be enlightened?” question adds 17 days to how long until you become enlightened. ?

I want a Baxter doll. ?

That is a common reaction. You may get called back or you may get drawn to personal desires. I would follow your true desires. I spent years pretending I was a “spiritual” character. People told ne to “fake it until I make it”. Yet my heart and true desire wasn’t really into it. Looking back it was kinda counter-productive. I would just be mindful not to hurt others. For example, I would refrain from misleading and/or manipulating women to satisfy sexual desires. The “Love Is a Battlefield” game takes a big toll on the mind-body.

Realization of The Story and that something exists beneath The Story is a profound realization, yet only one aspect of awakening. A child without a conditioned story and identity has a clear conscience state of one aspect. Similarly, a dog has a clear conscious state from one aspect. Yet those are hairs on the Ox’s tail. That realization opens a door - to many conscious states to awaken to. Also, there are other doors. Those are a couple of rooms in a Grand Hotel.

@Cortex ?? ?‍♂️

Try it out and see how it fits ya.

@Aakash It is as if you are trying to catch a flying eagle and put it in a cage to own it. Turquoise doesn’t work like that. I would focus on practice and direct experience. Let go as much as you can and open yourself to what might be revealed. Communication in Turquoise realms is very different than traditional communication. Imagine the whole world was blind and everyone in history was blind. One night you are hanging out with soneone and suddenly the two of you can see. Your mode of communication would dramatically change. It would be beyond anything you could imagine. Only you and the other person would understand it. How could you explain it to the blind people? This is much more radical than you are aware of.

Logic is the domain of Orange. Turquoise is three conscious levels higher. Logic is within Turquoise, yet is much more expansive. Try to explain your what your neighborhood is like without using any words that contain a vowel. It’s really hard to do, no?

The koala (Phascolarctos cinereus) is an arboreal herbivorous marsupial native to Australia. It is the only extantrepresentative of the family Phascolarctidae and its closest living relatives are the wombats, which comprise the family Vombatidae. The koala is found in coastal areas of the mainland's eastern and southern regions, inhabiting Queensland, New South Wales, Victoria, and South Australia. It is easily recognisable by its stout, tailless body and large head with round, fluffy ears and large, spoon-shaped nose. The koala has a body length of 60–85 cm (24–33 in) and weighs 4–15 kg (9–33 lb). Pelage colour ranges from silver grey to chocolate brown. Koalas from the northern populations are typically smaller and lighter in colour than their counterparts further south. These populations possibly are separate subspecies, but this is disputed.

You are taking the map as the territory. . . There is nothing wrong about conceptualizing about the map, just be aware it's the map, not the territory. Personally, I would rather have direct experience with the territory. For example, I would rather spend a week exploring the actual territory of Australia than sit around the whole week discussing a map of Australia. After an hour discussing the map, I'd be like "Enough of the map. Let's go see some Koala Bears and Kangaroos!!". Maps are useful to an extent, yet just as a guide. The real juice in life is in the territory.

Nor will you be able to in the future. Turquoise is post-logic. A mind needs to let go of logic to enter this realm. You won't figure it out or be able to explain it logically. This is part of ego surrender - to surrender control of the mental narrative. For example, explain to me in logical terms this sentence: "The gablish tecklot in the crisdort during plaktok" A logical mind will dismiss this as being illogical nonsense that has nothing to do with it's desire or purpose. Notice how your mind has already dismissed Turquoise pointers and tried to downgrade them as Yellow. Turquoise is unpalatable to the ego. Yet, minds with direct experience in Turquoise would understand the nonsensical sentence above . . . but not how you think they would.

@UDT Direct experience, beingness and theory are inter-related. Yet, many minds become off-balance toward theory at the expense of direct experience and being.