Florian

Ye I get it. He got stupidly rich but he paid the price for it.

You did not just question some gaps in his philosphy, you want to make him appear as a complete grifter and youre trying to frame this conversation with as if my ego is just hurt because Im so attached to Bryan Johnson + you either didnt adress my points at all or didnt adress them properly, like you still need proper sleep first if you want other therapies to work with severe mental ilness. You are completly projecting your bs onto me and Bryan Johnson, you are toxic af stop interacting with me. And I obviously didnt suggest closing the forum because I disagreed with others that statement of yours alone is a crazy attempt to gaslight and could be seen as an argument that it actually would be better to close this forum as you are a fucking moderator in here.

http://youtube.com/post/Ugkx-1jKTzF6IJjJe6sA-MUvwgRMWN_WZG9h?si=rcxDAbBN-y75JyPu I spent around 1min to find this Look I am the perfect example for a person suffering. I have been diagnosed with severe depression before and also have a "personality disorder" which my psychatriest couldnt even quite pin down and this post will also be a piece of evidence for the impact of specificly sleep and diet cause as I said before I have insomnia problems right now that destroyed my sleep and thus I lack in the willpower department right now as well which is why I just ate a "cheat meal" unlike my usual 100% clean diet and now I am in a completely different state and this will reflect in this post cause holy shit I dont have the patience to deal with this bullshit like before rn. Do you even know what a straw man is? You telling me this argument that there might be people who dont want to live forever destroys Bryan Johnson Philisophie of living healthy, like wtf? thats a strawman for all I know, classic projection. First of all yes sleep does fix most emotional problems or is at least necesarry to be able to fix it via other therapies. As a person who is suffering, this health perspective is propably the only reason I am able to keep going, like holy shit you have no idea what you are talking about or youre ragebaiting, stop coming at me with that bullshit toxic attitude. Then who said its Bryan Johnsons mission to specificly only heal people with mental illness to make them want to live forever? Completely made up by you. I dont think you are happy to change your mind since you like everybody else I have addressed here dont seem to actually take notice of anything I wrote except the fact that I defend Bryan Johnson. Like this forum is about high consiousness and it reacts in such a low consious honestly disgusting (to me) way to this. Even and especially from Leo which is so fucking sad to me but I also understand, because thats exactly what you become when your health is shit and he just doesnt seem to want to understand, or he thinks he has already done everything possible for his health. Btw also pointing back at the Bryan Johnson post I linked, this might be a big reason for Leos Health problems, social media is so bad for your health, while in person social interaction is so important and he seems to get most social interaction from this forum which propably doesnt even have the normal negative social media effects for him but those on steroids as he has the responsibility to lead it and has to deal with so much bs. Like I wouldnt even be surprised if thats the main reason for his health problems. I really got many great insights from this forum by reading your posts @Leo Gura, thank you for that, but at this point I think it might be best for yourself if you close it or something like that. I had more patience then I thought, but I dont want to deal with this shit here anymore. I think I wrote everything I could, now its on anyone who read it to adapt to it or not.

Ye, I think he is like the man of the hour right now, doing maybe the most imporant thing at the moment. The way he is extending life is the cure to a lot of chronic suffering. Sleeping well alone fixes so many emotionals problems. I think the problem here is that you think he is only extending the life in the exact same way it was before, but the quality of life will improve once you adapt to this lifestyle, no matter what. Ofc if you are in a position of intense wage slavery and other baggage you have it a lot harder, but remember he already went through that hell. You seem to say its only for the rich like so many people and everyone else is busy suffering in their own little hell but I guess kinda counter intuitively the way out of that hell is that way he is showing everyone. Obviously you cant do everything like him but even he knows that very well and communicates that. The way you do it is by starting a positive spiral that begins with sleep. Very first step is to make sleep your number 1 priority and build life around it. Optimal first specific steps would be obviously first getting more sleep (at least 7 hours), which is a big problem for a lot of people but I think if its your number 1 prorioty a lot of people crying about all this being impossible can very well do it. Then have a consistent (every single day) bed time, same time going to bed and waking up. Then 2 more relatively easy to do things are last meal 4 hours before bed and 10min walks after eating, both improving sleep quality significantly. If you do that you will have more willpower making it easier to avoid fast food and start working out which again will have positive effects adding to the momentum of the spiral. And even if you cant do all this perfectly, as long as you hold it as number 1 priority and do everything you can, you are on the right track. I myself got my sleep schedule destroyed/destroyed it a little on my own because of insomnia type reasons coming from an emotional issue in my life which is coming up right now, but in the big picture health is still my number 1 priority, I know once this is resolved I go back to my tight sleep schedule and in the meantime I do everything left I can do to keep up my health with the willpower I have left. Even before I ever heard of Bryan Johnson sleep was my number 1 priority as I had very fucked up sleep and just noticed how imporant it is and it took me around 8 years to have around 70 days with a consistent sleep schedule just to have it destroyed again but I will keep going for the rest of my life with this. Maybe there will be periods where I cant hold my sleep schedule up or eat perfectly healthy or work out everyday but it always be the first thing to come back to once I got the opportunity. Btw I remember having made a post about health as the number 1 priority before and not having answered to one of your last responses where you asked me to elaborate on my analogy of life as a picture and health as the frame or something akin to that. Now I think its more fitting to say health is life not just the frame when life is a picture. You want a good life? Simply have good health because life is literally health. Or to come back to the frame: The frame of your experience of life is your body and your body is basically just the manifestation of your health, so in that sense there is the abstract concept of health and the specific manifestation as your body, idk if that is making clear sense as I just came up with this right now, but "health = life" is already very insightful I think.

Hope this cleans the view on him for some people, especially @Leo Gura cause I think you would profit the most from adapting to this new perspective on health. This taxed my nervous system ngl, time to take some time off from this website again

Holy shit this is enough for now

Thats is basically already what it is about.

Bro do you know about his past? He completely burnt out from his previous career. Where do you think he got all the money to do this stuff from? And ye I think his looks dont really match the health stats and thats because his skin was severly damaged and you cant really recover skin that well. Also I think chronic sauna use, which he is doing, might be bad for the skin, just a guess though.

If you love being human though it makes sense. Doesnt mean being a human is all there is. Your logic is built upon the human experience not having any worth, then why are you still alive?

Yeeeeee +1

Or thats a sign he is on the right path. Maybe you understand his view of "living forever" completely wrong my guy more like coding it into a more beautiful experience. Why is there a matrix to begin with? Just because you seem to think its bad doesnt mean its bad, thats your bias.

Ye he called his extra virgin olive oil "snake oil" thats all the snake oil he is selling and there is so much less corruption in him then anyone here it seems.

And all this health stuff is obviously part of infinite love cause its infinite.

When did he say he found the holy grail with that? Its just a piece of the puzzle

But maybe if your car was alive and capable of evolution you could put jet fuel in it slowly for it to adapt.

maybe you overdid it???

Bro wtf is this. Obviously you are triggered by it in some way. Stop this shit. I think this health perspective would be perfect for you now. You already did maybe your greatest work in terms of Actualized.org, understanding and explaining reality and paid your prize for it in terms of health, now you seem to be in a kind of hole. You could just sit back, focus on health and let the fruits of your labour unfold. Bryan is literally bringing your abstract teachings into a specific, tangible, physical form.

The cost in terms of shrooms is your ability to reproduce. It damages sperm health. Might be similar with other psychedelics.

He is already chronically optimizing sleep, exercise and diet + other chronic therapies like sauna and hyperbaric oxygen chamber. Shrooms or other psychedelics could act as reclibrater of your inner clock in a sense that only work if the rest of the system is in proper order, or just like the cherry on top.

It did though, he has measured it. Long term nervous system and hormonal changes. What if you dont take into account that the impact is affected by the state of your system when consumed? I think calling him unserious is laughable. Have you even followed him closely for a bit? He is 100% commited to this.

He is though. Seems to me like everyone here has a wrong vibe of the guy. 2 things: -he is not afraid of death, he accepted it when he was in deep depression -its not just about living longer but about improving legitimately everything in life right now I heard so many people say "if you invest all your time in your health you have no time left to live" which is so wrong. You get more time and can enjoy the time better. And also im pretty sure this big focus on health is nececarry for human kinds next big leap, so he is building the foundation for that.

Okay, thank you

Has this been mentioned before on this forum and if not, has anyone seen it and whats your opinions on it? I already made a post about health being priority number 1 before and I think I already said I think Bryan Johnson is maybe the most important man on the planet right now and now he resonates with the Actualized content as well. He seems to have rapidly become a spiral Dynamics Tier 2 human adapting to the system perspective and now also using psychedelics.

I want to make this post to make a point that in the optimal life your health is your #1 priority. Everything else, even your life purpose is built on the foundation of health. Sleep, Diet, Excersise and all the specifics within those, also mental/emotional/interal health The thing is: there is a dimensional difference between being normally healthy like eating 90% clean, sleeping enough and excercising 3 times a week compared to having health as your absolute #1 priority and everything else coming second, meaning same exact bedtime everyday, optimal sleep duration, optimising sleep quality by having your last meal at least 4 hours, optimally 9 hours before going to bed and other factors such as a winddown routine, avoiding excersise 4 hours before bed etc. same with diet and excercise. I think Leo is the perfect example of this. He certainly put a lot of value on health, but his work was for sure taking a lot more energy, draining his system over the years/decades and now his health is shit (if the situation is still the same, I wasnt active on this forum for a long time) and he is blaming everything on genetics, at least thats how I see it, ofc I might be wrong. Edit: Ofc I might be wrong but especially after seeing the responses im pretty sure im right about this.

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