Hardkill

But what if I suck with women?

Your very last dream ever.

If you are ever put on trial, explain to the judge and the jury that you didn't anything wrong because it's just the accuser's perception of his reality.

So if I wanted to fly without any device or equipment or airplane then all I have to do is believe that it will happen. Yeah?

lol. Alright well thank you very much for your helpful replies. I know have a horrible victim mindset. A lot of it of course comes from my failures with women and because I've never had a girlfriend before, even at the age of 30. It's ironic, since I used to always visualize success with women even though I would always get nervous and shy every time I approached an attractive girl because I used to think that I was God's gift to every woman due to my looks and gentlemanly demeanor. Of course, I had a really rude awakening after getting rejected numerous times. So because of my failures with women coupled with the idea that PUA experts have mentioned that you shouldn't expect any in return, it's so hard for me to truly visualize success with beautiful women as a reality. It's like I always think about sleeping with hot girls and making at least one of them my girlfriend or fuck buddy, but then have this other thought in my head "It may never happen (or happen again). Maybe I am just pipe dreaming. The only reason why I ever got laid with a few fairly attractive girls was due to luck."

Ah gotcha. Okay, phew. I mean no offense to unattractive looking women or fat girls, they are people too, but I just don't think I could have sex with them. Also, I wouldn't be feeling genuine with how I feel about her. I wouldn't want to lead them on too far and end up making them really feel used for just sex with absolutely no attraction and/or connection between us. Even if it's just for a one night stand or some sort of casual short-term thing like friends with benefits, both the guy and the girl need to feel enough of a real attraction and connection between the two in order for the sex to be good and to not have either party feel like they lowered their standards or dignity too much. So I guess for now I'll set my sights for sleeping with girls whom I find as being reasonably attractive or at least slightly above average looking. Like about a 6-7 out of 10 in looks and about a 6-7 out of 10 in connection with each other. Sounds fair?

Damn, so then I take it that you've slept with a lot of fat and physically unappealing girls before.

So I should start off banging fat girls and average looking girls and drunk girls? lol

Hmm...alright. So when you say a random horny girl will just want to fuck me and do possibly more with me after doing enough approaches consistently, in this case you're not talking about just some unattractive or homely looking girl or a girl who I don't find attractive at all or some drunk girl from a bar or club? Right?

damn! So would you say that if you can do it, then I should INEVITABLY be able to get laid with a very hot girl from cold approach too? Or do u think it's possible that cold approach won't ever work for some people even if they truly trued their hardest everyday, every week, every month, every year and approach about thousands of girls or more per year at various kinds of venues? Also, what about social circles? Will I never get great dates or get laid with any girls I am attracted to from that as a hard case newbie?

I've been totally maximizing my looks; albeit my clothing style could be improved on. However, as cocky as this may sound people have told since I was a teenager that I should be a model. Plus, as I just previously implied here on this thread and on a number of other threads on here, I am extremely physically active and an experienced blackbelt in Hapkido. I'll DM you my instagram account (I don't feel comfortable posting my instagram username here publicly). However, I don't have much money of my own. I live and am financially supported by my parents. I am grad student in teaching.

So then about how many approaches a week should I do if I really want to start seeing real progress? Like approach at least 40 girl that I am attracted to per week?

1) I just got into pickup after taking a break from for a few months. However, when I used to approach consistently, it would vary from week to week. Some weeks I would only go out for 1 day, sometimes 2-3 days a week, sometimes 4 days a week). Some weeks I would only approach about 10 girls for the week. Other weeks I would have approached about 20-30 girls a week or more. 2) I rarely have wingmen. Even then they never really helped me to get a number or fuck close. 3) I live in Pasadena, CA 4) I sometimes go to bars, clubs, coffee shops, gyms, university campuses, meetups. I usually don't approach during the day though I have done it several times before like out on the street or on campus. I've even approached girls out on the street during night time (I've gotten a few women from that kind of area to go out with me on a first date). 5) I work kinda part-time with my dad at home on construction. I mostly a student who is doing an online program for my master's in teaching. I am a blackbelt martial artist who has practiced Hapkido for almost 11 years. I've done powerlifting for almost 4 years. I've been training for a half-marathon for over 5 months.

Bust a nut.

Okay, thank you very much. Yours was the best response.

On 12/27/2017 at 7:10 PM, Leo Gura said: @Hardkill Depends on what your expectations and sticking-points are. If you are a newbie and having trouble with cold-approaching and opening consistently all night long, it should definitely help push you past that. Learning how to approach consistently is one of the biggest problems people have. Bootcamps are designed to force you into tough situations and make you bolder. Ok well, I don’t really have a problem with open many sets consistently myself even without a coach or a bootcamp. I’ve approach about 1,000 girls five or take in myself mostly all by myself (though there were a few times where I approached girl with a wingman). My trouble is more mid to end game and converting numbers and/or approaches to consistent dates and/or lays. I’ve gotten numbers and a few first dates from cold approaching, but that’s all I got. The lays, 2nd dates, 3rd dates, 4th dates, 5th dates, and 6th dates I got were all from girls I met online (except for a couple of girls whom I met at a previous gym I went to). Would a PUA bootcamp and/or good dating coach definitely help me convert more of my approaches to more lays and/or dates? If yes, then why? If no, then why?

Damn. I wish I got more of an answer than a half-assed response from Leo. Please moderators or anyone with experience with coaching, help me out here.

Yeah Leo, we would appreciate it if you could respond to these questions we all have.

I think being a complete jackass is much more fun.

Yeah that’s why I am considering being a complete jackass again like I was when I was young child. I used to enjoy annoying the shit out of people for my own self-amusement because I always knew that would work for me when I had trouble making friends or getting along with others.

Ok well, I don’t really have a problem with open many sets consistently myself even without a coach or a bootcamp. I’ve approach about 1,000 girls five or take in myself mostly all by myself (though there were a few times where I approached girl with a wingman). My trouble is more mid to end game and converting numbers and/or approaches to consistent dates and/or lays. I’ve gotten numbers and a few first dates from cold approaching, but that’s all I got. The lays, 2nd dates, 3rd dates, 4th dates, 5th dates, and 6th dates I got were all from girls I met online (except for a couple of girls whom I met at a previous gym I went to). Would a PUA bootcamp and/or good dating coach definitely help me convert more of my approaches to more lays and/or dates? If yes, then why? If no, then why?

"How do you deal with people thinking you're a nut?" Ask them to help you bust a nut.

Ok, this has really been a great burden on mind. I know that it's not always good to compare myself to others, but we live in a competitive world and a lot of times I can't help, but comparing myself to other people. With that said that, why has it been so easy for some guys to be able to get laid or get popular with people ever since they were in high school? As we all know by now, about 99% of men haven't ever learned or tried any sort of pickup methods for approaching and dating women and very likely have never cold approached a girl in their entire lives. Yet, out of that percentage of men, a number of them have been able to easily get laid with hot women and keep them for long. In contrast, I've approached over a 1,000 women I have been truly attracted to with all kinds of cold/warm approach methods and not once have I ever been able make any one of them an official fuck buddy or girlfriend of mine. Is it because those guys who have always had it easy with women have a genetic talent for seduction?

I've recently thought about it and I don't see where slut-shaming is happening within developed countries such as the US, Canada, UK, etc. Maybe a little bit in high school, but that's seems to be it. Also, many high schoolers like to say all kinds of shit to others just because they are going through puberty and are still underage.

Thanks for the responses guys. So, slut-shaming is usually only subtly implied on a subconscious level such as when someone else says "your clothes are too skimpy" or "I wouldn't want to date a girl who has slept with more than 20 guys because I won't feel special" or "a girl who has slept with more than 40 guys would intimidate me" ?