Hardkill

Good Looks really don't mean much. I don't mean to brag, but I've always looked exceptionally good-looking and it didn't help me much with getting and keeping any of the girls I want. @BjarkeT Your answer sounds too uncertain.

Also Leo, would you consider virgins who are in their mid twenties or older to have an exceptional talent for being celibate?

Btw, I forgot to mention that I don’t like the fact that Corey Wayne is a Trump supporter. Trump supporters are usually not smart and believe in outdated simple- minded concepts with any thing in life.

Corey Wayne isn’t that great. His ideas and understanding of certain ideas pertaining to relationships is mostly right. However, his methods of picking up and dating women are relatively ineffective according my experience. His advice on online dating is even worse.

Wow! I can't believe how naive I was to think that practically all Buddhist monks are saints unlike the Catholic Priests. I don't know why I didn't realize this earlier. Also, I actually thought that Leo gave some invaluable pieces of wisdom and knowledge here on sex and meditation. This thread actually turned out to be genuinely great. OP, I feel your pain. I am not a virgin anymore and have slept with a few girls from online dating and fooled around with a couple from warm approaching. Yet, I've been rejected by about a thousand girls (even though I close to getting laid with some of them), despite my model looks over a period of about 3 years of approaching girls in all kinds of venues, having tried my best with online dating, looking up all kinds of PUA material, etc. I wonder if pickup doesn't work for everyone. Or maybe it does work for literally anyone who is mentally sane, but demands a serious amount of investment of time and commitment to make continual significant progress at it, as Leo stated. Btw, most legit PUA experts say that to truly get the most effective results with pickup that you need to approach at least 20-40 girls a week every week. Unfortunately, I haven't had the luxury to this at this point in my life now because of my financial and academic life along with my parents who I not only live with, but also don't approve of pickup that have gotten in the way of making a serious commitment to cold/warm approaching a lot. Yet maybe you don't have any of these obstacles like I do. If so then perhaps you have more of a choice then I do of approaching 20-40 girls a week every week in public venues. Now, I would advise not approaching random girls you've never met either in your class (if you go to school) or workplace or clubs or gyms you belong to or any kind of organization you belong to. Otherwise, you could jeopardize your career at your job or risk losing your membership at any other place you are a member of. Believe me, I've gotten kicked out of a gym and a mall for approaching random girls I've never met before even when I was very polite and had no intention at all of stalking or creeping any of them out. A lot of security guards and managers in virtually any store or club like "protecting" girls unnecessarily like white knight douchebags. Yet, If you can kicked out for harmlessly approaching a lot of women at a store or club, then you risk creating greater consequences to your life if you cold approach random girls who are strangers or acquaintances to you at work or in any of your classes at school. The only exception to this is actually approaching girls on a relatively big university campus or community college campus outside of a classroom or school gym as long as you don't stalk them or approach like a drunkard or crazy weirdo. Small campuses can be riskier than big ones because you're less likely to be anonymous when constantly approaching a college or grad school girl on a small campus.

Hey guys, I recently came upon a vid on youtube from PUA coach Kezia Noble on overcoming rejection. It mainly explains about doing what's called "blowout game." Here's the link for vid that talks about it: What do you guys think about it? Could this idea be helpful for someone like me with approach anxiety and depression or would doing it be very asinine and possibly get me into some legal trouble with women?

I've tried Tyler's way and it didn't work for me.

You don't understand. I always complain everyday. Fuck this fucking world. I feel exactly the same as OP. I still don't get why I should continue living in this accursed world. I would kill myself if I didn't have my parents or my dog and wasn't afraid of death.

Well ok, technically that's true regarding scientific and natural laws. However, you can't deny reality (at least not for long) and every serious matter has consequences.

Are you actually a mathematician? That's dope. True, no formulas, theory, theorem, model, or what have you is an undeniable/fundamental truth for anything that explains how and why the universe works the way it works. However, they are again, extremely difficult to disprove or change just like business policies or societal laws in most countries are. On the other hand, scientific laws and what we see, hear, feel, smell, or taste are themselves undeniable truths. Also, forgoing all judgment and logic would cause anyone to be both very foolish and stupid.

What a load of crap. Anything that has been strongly proven by science is undeniable. You can't just distort your perception by denying what the medical and scientific community has absolutely agreed upon. Even when it comes to math, if you are not a mathematician then how can you legitimately argue that a certain theorem, postulate, formula, or equation is false? Look, you can create something new or original (if you have very above average intelligence or talent) and you can always disprove a theory so long as you can back it up with adequately valid logic and strong enough pieces of evidence to substantiate your claims. However, the best scientists, medical doctors, and mathematicians in the world are of the highest-esteemed professionals in their field of expertise who not only have practiced what they do for a living for several years (if not decades), but also are some of the highest intellects and some of the most relevant individuals throughout the entire world. So what they say absolutely cannot be disputed, unless of course you are a scientist, medical doctor, or mathematician, whose intellect rivals or is beyond the elite of their respective fields. Otherwise, practically everything the TOP scientists, mathematicians, and medical doctors say and have demonstrated has been agreed upon by the general census of the world to not only work for society, but also has very little to no chance of being falsified. Furthermore, you can't disregard the LAWs of science, the established LAWs of society, the official RULES of created in each particular business. The LAWs of science will NEVER change because they have always and will forever determine how everything in the universe. Regarding business policies and societal laws, those rules are very difficult if not almost impossible to change because those rules are there to establish order and fairness as much as possible. The reason societal laws are exceedingly hard to change in a highly civilized society such as the U.S. is because there is always too many differing opinions on a certain matter for the country. Sure, kings or queens in a country governed by monarchy, have the power to easily change their laws of their nation, and a president, such as Putin, in a country ruled mostly by the oligarchy can also revise the laws of its nation much more easily compared to nations with democratic institutions. However, monarchy and oligarchy are such primitive and obsolete systems of ruling that are completely inferior to democracy and create an extremely unfair environment for the vast majority of the citizens in any nation. How about considering the consequences of one's actions in any situation? You can't just ignore the consequences of committing a crime, physically harming someone, or creeping many people out and then expect to get away with it (at least not for long). Lastly, what you see, hear, feel, smell, or taste (unless ofc you're hallucinating). Reality is reality.

So, then what about the idea that "no girl is unattainable. You have to have a positive mindset"?

It just happened I believe. I really don't have time to go into depth about each and every success I had.

Read through these posts on this thread:

Man, I also feel worthless too, Faith. People in general don't understand humans like us. Sometimes, I wished I live in another galaxy that had life elsewhere. It's so painful. Everyday I try to put on my game face in front others I am acquainted with or am barely friends with, but in reality I am not handling it great.

Also, SFRL, I am afraid that I've already been trying your idea for years. It's still not enough and it's still not fun, for the most part. I am doing my very best and I am still a loser who has been very cruelly misled by most, but not all, of the PUA community. I am really not trying to argue with you guys for the sake of it. I am really not. In fact, trolling is the very last thing I want to do.

Fuck! But I can't figure out what I need to do make sure this doesn't happens again. I've tried therapists, read Dale Carnegie's "How to Win Friends and Influence People," etc. Now, I urgently need help on this.

Look, I am getting desperate and I don't know what else to do solve my approach anxiety and depression. Don't tell me to see a therapist because I've seen countless therapists all of my life to little avail. I don't know what to do.

Actually, I am afraid that that is not the worse that could happen. 1. I've gotten kicked out of a mall just for approaching random women (even when I was absolutely polite and normal), 2. I got kicked out of a bar for saying "I am incredibly hard!" to 2 women for shits and giggles when I was tipsy. 3. I got kicked out of a bar for "staring" at a bartender to the point of making her uncomfortable (I really didn't mean to), 4. I got kicked out a gym and my membership from there revoked permanently for taking a pic of a girl, making a couple of girls there uncomfortable when I approached them and/or was staring at them (I didn't mean to make those girls uncomfortable). 5. I got expelled from a University for sexual harassment. That's why I am very paranoid about the law and business policies. So, I will ask you again. Are you absolutely sure that I will not get into any legal trouble if I do this extreme direct style blowout game on girls in the future?

Right, I totally get that. That's why I became intrigued with the idea of trying something like that. So, even though u agree that it would help with approach and anxiety and outcome-dependency issues, do u think that women could press charges on me for "sexual harassment" because I said extremely crazy and creepy shit to them out of the blue?

I know, it seems very nuts, but I just wanted to desensitize myself to rejection and learn to feel like I am taking control of my own emotions and outcome. what about on the streets or bars?

I see. So, do u think that trying out this idea would get me into any trouble with women legally regardless of where I approached them?

Yes it is quite a balance to maintain. Society did not set good examples on how to properly maintain such a balance.

I believe that we must always embrace our dark side as much as our light side. You can't have one without the other to function well. Both sides are also necessary to reach your full potential. If you solely rely on your dark side then even if you succeed in acquiring what you want, you will pay the price by living a despicable life and will eventually face disastrous consequences to your life in the long-run. However, if you only depend on your light side then although you will be recognized as an honorable being with a pure-heart, you will never be able to unleash your true power from within you and you will never get as far as you desire in life in the long-run because you keep holding yourself back unnecessarily.

Yeah what do u do when you've tried everything else to no avail and u don't have a lot of options?